Chinese Vassili----Zhang Taofang, #1 sniper in PLA

[Red Guard]

Zhang Taofang is the #1 sniper in chinese volunteer force in korean war. he used 442 bullets and made a 214 confirmed kill in 32 days. chinese snipering recording is very straight, one confirmed kill is one kill fell down and not getting up for at least 20 minutes, and without anyone picking him/her(hopfully not her) with in 20 minutes. from jan 29th of 1953 to may 25th, he was the sniper on the ground which Huang jiguang (blocked machine gun post with chest) was KIAed. He was awarded with the "highest award", "snipering hero second grade", and N.Korean medal of "national banner's medal first grade" He uses the same rifle of Vassili Zaithev, a Mos Nagen with scope

http://bwl.jschina.com.cn/war_cn/korea/104-1.jpg
http://bwl.jschina.com.cn/war_cn/korea/104-2.jpg

"Number one Killer of Lao Shan" Xiang Xiaoping
Xiang Xiaoping is another sniper hero in PLA. He joined army in 1984, after he graduated from high school. In 40 days in the trenches of Lao Shan, he used 31 bullets made 30 confirmed kill and wounded one. He was awarded "combat hero" later on. He used a type 79 snipering rifle, chinese SVD
i don't have his photo on hand.


"In this life of mine, any target on my gunpoint is a bull's eye"
---Xiang Xiaoping


Sorry i post this in army, could transfer to history later on. sorry again.

[Ender Wiggin]

Just so you know its Vassili Zaitsev, but ya cool pics.

[adeptitus]

"Number one Killer of Lao Shan" Xiang Xiaoping
Xiang Xiaoping is another sniper hero in PLA. He joined army in 1984, after he graduated from high school. In 40 days in the trenches of Lao Shan, he used 31 bullets made 30 confirmed kill and wounded one. He was awarded "combat hero" later on. He used a type 79 snipering rifle, chinese SVD
i don't have his photo on hand.


I think the year might be a mistake? If he joined the army in 1984, what war was he involved in?

[PiSigma]

WHAT'S WITH ALL THE ONE-LINERS... STOP OR ELSE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE THREAD!!! VINCE/YUE THIS IS THE THE SECOND TIME I'M GOING TO TELL YOU TO STOP USING FILLER TO MAKE YOUR POST LONGER.

[Red Guard]

if my threads are always closed, i don't see the point to post any here, guys.....

to 3rd floor.
yes, it is the sino viet name war, 1979, feburary, 17th? if i didn't remember wrong, after about 3 weeks fighting, the main war was over. later on, people were defending the border until 1988 and 1989, about 10 years conflict. in 1984, the battle of Lao Shan was fought, it was one of the main battle after 1979.

[PiSigma]

not your fault red guard.. blame it on vince/yue. he's one of the oldest members on the forum.. and yet, he is setting one of the worst examples.
the threads you start have been very good. just don't let others ruin it for you. PM the mods if you find people started to ruin your thread. and post more and start more good threads like this.

and back on topic..
the second guy (Xiang Xiaoping) seems a lot better than the first guy (Zhang Taofang). considering his percent kill/bullet is so much higher.. only missing once.. and wounded the guy. that is pretty amazing. anywayz. does anyone know who's the best sniper in USSR/Germany/USA in ww2?? and number of kills/shot. the guy in korean war probably fought for longer.. so results in more kills.

[T-U-P]

and back on topic..
the second guy (Xiang Xiaoping) seems a lot better than the first guy (Zhang Taofang). considering his percent kill/bullet is so much higher.. only missing once.. and wounded the guy. that is pretty amazing.
i agree according the stats, but those are just stats. i have heard that the UN/US forces usually go back and rescue the injured soldiers and also carry the dead back. so according the info:
chinese snipering recording is very straight, one confirmed kill is one kill fell down and not getting up for at least 20 minutes, and without anyone picking him/her(hopfully not her) with in 20 minutes.
it only counts if the victim does not get up or being rescued in 20min. so maybe he killed a lot more but not officially recorded.

as for the snipers in WWII, you can find the info in wikipedia, also i don't know how reliable that source is...

what i do know is that the longest sniping distance is made by a Canadian sniper in Afghanistan.

[Red Guard]

ja, that's why i said chinese snipering recording is too strict.
i also heard the record made by canadian.
the recuiting officer was very proud to tell that us. he said "a sniper is like a piece of artillery" but i find the job of snipering is very difficult for people. the story decribed by Xiang Xiaoping, as he made his first confirmed kill, it was difficult. he was saying:
"i realize when i push the trigger, he is going to be dead, gone forever, where am i going to shoot at him? head? chest? this is too hard........later on, i thought i don't kill him now, later on he may kill me......i pushed the trigger, he fell.........i made my first kill........the observer said to me 'he is dead??? you made it, let...s.....go..leave..here...go...' ....then after we got off the snipering position, he said to me ' why are you in sweat?' am i? oh god, all my uniform is shooked wet. how much did i sweat???"


you have to look at the guy when you kill. it's the most difficult thing for people.

[komushi]

Zhang Taofang is the #1 sniper in chinese volunteer force in korean war...........He uses the same rifle of Vassili Zaithev, a Mos Nagen with scope

I have seen a documentary film about Zhang Taofang.
Actually his rifile was without scope.
Chinese Army did not have specific snipers at that time.

[jatt]

If his rifle didn't have a scope nore any tags from the soliders he killed. In 40 days IMHO it would be impossible to kill 200 soldiers. You do realize how difficulte that is? That would make him the best sniper in the world.

[PiSigma]

i don't know about the no scope part. if he uses the same rifle as vassili, then it's going to have a scope, it comes with the gun.

[FreeAsia2000]

Talking about snipers Mr Juba now has his own video...apparently his record
is now 163

http://www.aztlan.net/juba_video.htm

He's supposed to be responsible for 10% of US deaths !

Does anybody believe this ?

[Kampfwagen]

i don't know about the no scope part. if he uses the same rifle as vassili, then it's going to have a scope, it comes with the gun.

Not quite. The sniper's rifle of the Russian Army during WW2 was the Mosin-Nagant with a Snipers Scope attached. (If anyone has any specifics, then please correct.) The rifle was pretty much the basic infantry version with a scope. Now the PLA during Korea had a similar way of making things and the equipment on pretty much all sides was WW2 Surplus. The scoped rifles were more expensive to produce and being a million-man army, Cost Efectiveness is everything. And most snipers were skilled hunters in civilian life, so the need for a scope is lessened by that basic skill. Now that isint to say they didnt use scopes, just that it is more likely back then that they did not.

[pathfinder]

Talking about snipers Mr Juba now has his own video...apparently his record
is now 163

http://www.aztlan.net/juba_video.htm

He's supposed to be responsible for 10% of US deaths !

Does anybody believe this ?

I don't think "Juba" is one man. Americans in Iraq long suspected that multiple sharpshooters are attacking soldiers around Baghdad and they are claiming to be one person.

[patriot]

Zhang Taofang is the #1 sniper in chinese volunteer force in korean war. he used 442 bullets and made a 214 confirmed kill in 32 days. chinese snipering recording is very straight, one confirmed kill is one kill fell down and not getting up for at least 20 minutes, and without anyone picking him/her(hopfully not her) with in 20 minutes. from jan 29th of 1953 to may 25th, he was the sniper on the ground which Huang jiguang (blocked machine gun post with chest) was KIAed. He was awarded with the "highest award", "snipering hero second grade", and N.Korean medal of "national banner's medal first grade" He uses the same rifle of Vassili Zaithev, a Mos Nagen with scope

http://bwl.jschina.com.cn/war_cn/korea/104-1.jpg
http://bwl.jschina.com.cn/war_cn/korea/104-2.jpg

"Number one Killer of Lao Shan" Xiang Xiaoping
Xiang Xiaoping is another sniper hero in PLA. He joined army in 1984, after he graduated from high school. In 40 days in the trenches of Lao Shan, he used 31 bullets made 30 confirmed kill and wounded one. He was awarded "combat hero" later on. He used a type 79 snipering rifle, chinese SVD
i don't have his photo on hand.


"In this life of mine, any target on my gunpoint is a bull's eye"
---Xiang Xiaoping


Sorry i post this in army, could transfer to history later on. sorry again.

Of the 31 people Xiang Xiaoping shot.The last one was a girl. It was his only miss in which he did on purpose not to kill the girl

[WEN?]

why was he even shotting a girl??

[patriot]

The girl was a soldier in the Vietnames army. He was suppose to shoot her but he didn't and missed on purpose cuz he felt bad for killing a beatiful young women.