grenade launcher question

[MadMax]

is the type 91 nonleathl only cause ive seen a few picture with what looks like a gp 30 or gp 25 atached to a type 95 rifle ill post a picture if i can find it again

[MadMax]

http://img36.exs.cx/img36/4415/pla_sf060.jpg heres one iv got at least another one some where

[utelore]

any grenade launcher can fire both lethal and less than lethal rounds. There is no such thing a total non-lethal.......cheers ute

[MadMax]

i meant are there only non leathle rounds for the type 91 not whether or not it could fire them

[MadMax]

hey its the t 95p from ghost recon 2http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/Number1azn365/PLA.jpg

[utelore]

Max, it does not matter. if you have say a 37mm or 40mm it is chamberd for that round. so you can send of gas, cork, he, wp or whatever you want.

[MIGleader]

please stay on subject.

Yes, Ute's right. there is no non lethal round. rubber bullets can richochet and cruch a windpipe. pepper spray can put allergic people in the ER.
you just have to find the safest solution.

Now why would a pla soldier have a less than lethal gernade launcher??
they should be for the police

[MadMax]

you still dont get it im asking if there are leathle rounds availible in 35m.m. for the type 91

[MadMax]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/Number1azn365/PLA.jpg awsome its the chinese OICW!

[MIGleader]

not my specialty...cant help you there.

maybe you should post in the professional forum if they let you.

[MadMax]

i was just wondering cause at sinodefence it says its a nonleathle i was wondering if there were leathle rounds for it

[vincelee]

of course there are lethal rounds for it. There are probably nonlethal rounds too.

[MadMax]

thats what iwas was thinking i figuered it would be like the m 203 but then why would they want a GP 25 on a type 95 instead of a type 91? :confused:

[MadMax]

heres the other one ive seen http://tinypic.com/9qvd02.jpg

[sumdud]

Well, I think the grenades of type 87 and type 91 are the same, but I've never heard about the connections.

As for the gun, I think that's China's new Laser gun.

PS, if I could, I would design a grenade launching pistol, too, shoots flares, shot gun, and grenade, just an idea.

[MadMax]

the grenade launcher on the type 95 is a russian GP 25 witch fires cassles 40 mm ammo not 35 mm like the 87 and 91 the other picture is probably an atempt to make an equivelent to the U.S. XM 29 O.I.C.W. project its probably an airburst grenade launcher on a type 95 with a fire control computer in ghost recon 2 it was called the type 95P system

[sino52C]

can you adjust it as well as an OICW?

[MadMax]

i dont know its the only picture ive seen of it and theres no info with it but i would assume yes thats probably why the scope is so big so the computer that sets airburst time will fit i hope thats what you ment by adjust it

[BKulan]

grenade pistols do exist, so do shotgun pistols.

though most of them are custom made.

the problem with designing such a weapon would be standardizing ammunition, which would mean smaller grenades or larger shotgun shells, flares don't matter because it still is effecient if smaller or larger. practically it's possible but is it really worth it. i can imagine that range would suffer and potentially being an extremely dangerous weapon to the wielder. would have pretty simple design though and probably very cheap.

[ger_mark]

thatzs a laser gun ?
what damage does it make ?
enemy gets a sunburn?
do u know how much energy u need to get a powerfull laser? :rolleyes:


and the oicw is german to be exactly ;)
oicw's origin is the G36K
http://www.airsoft-portal.cz/mod/sky/g36k.jpg

[TerraN_EmpirE]

thatzs a laser gun ?
what damage does it make ?
enemy gets a sunburn?
do u know how much energy u need to get a powerfull laser? :rolleyes:


and the oicw is german to be exactly ;)
oicw's origin is the G36K
http://www.airsoft-portal.cz/mod/sky/g36k.jpg
my friend the OICW or SABR is a American project, Built in germany. the project is a joint between alliance Tech systems and HK. (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/oicw.htm)

If thats a laser why does it have a magazine instead of Batteries?
look again the guys left hand is on a magazine. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/Number1azn365/PLA.jpg)

[MadMax]

the rifle part of the oicw is a derivitive of the G 36 but the grenade launcher is developed by american aliance tech but the XM 29 was cancled any way its been seperated into the XM 8 rifle and XM 25 grenade launcher its also 25 rather then 20 m.m.

[MadMax]

has anyone heard anything about the chinese O.I.C.W. its the first and only picture iv seen of it

[sumdud]

So much for grenades and going into OICWs, eh?

It's OK, MadMaxis already going along.(Right?) :D

Well, you can't tell much from the photo.

All you can make out is a laser pod(?) and a rifle barrel. There is a second tube below the barrel, but what is that? It is not impossible that the magazine is actually a battery.

I am guessing that the magazine holds grenades shot from the 2nd tube, given that the soldier's hand is covering a 2nd magazine. So this might be a Chinese OICW.

[MadMax]

i supose it is of topic but i just came across it when i was looking for the other pictures and posted it
it is in a way relevent but perhaps worthy of a new thread of its own
ill change the title and maybe more people will check it out

[MadMax]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/Number1azn365/PLA.jpg

[Red not Dead]

my friend the OICW or SABR is a American project, Built in germany. the project is a joint between alliance Tech systems and HK. (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/oicw.htm)

If thats a laser why does it have a magazine instead of Batteries?
look again the guys left hand is on a magazine. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/Number1azn365/PLA.jpg)


HUm Hum the gun is a recycled g36k. Besides It was part of a german bid for the FELIN and Spectre combat suits (France and UK) that lost for political reasons. Then the concept was offered to DOD with the promise it will be "homegrown".

[Longaxe]

You can clearly see that it has 2 clips, I circled then in the modified photo I posted. I am not sure this thing really has a grenade launcher, and if it does I don’t think that it’s over 20mm. It could very well be a combo weapon firing 5.8mm X 42mm and 12.5mm X 108mm ammo. The size of the clips and the diameter of the barrel may point to this option.

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/6799/gun2pi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[MIGleader]

two mags? interesting. this weapon is vwry odd. can anyone prove the sodier is actually chinese? any info on the gun?

[MadMax]

i doubt it could be a 12.7mm round a barrel that short would cause some seroius recoil
you might brake youre collar bone firing that!

[Longaxe]

It could be longer then you think the end of the gun is cut of… Besides the Chinese haven’t exactly been know for having good ergonomics in their designs.