What are those things on the turret?

[adeptitus]

http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2005-10-09/20685.htm

Smoke grenade launchers?

[Longaxe]

I think I heard somewhere that they are flame throwers.

[MIGleader]

i think thay are cannons
similar to a flak panzer, but on a t-34???

[adeptitus]

A friend of mine looked at it and thought they were machineguns, with the roundish cylinder above each "barrel" being water-cooling cylinders.

But it doesn't look like it has any place for the ammo belt. =/

I believe this tank is most likely in China somewhere. If you look at the plaque to the right, it has simplified Chinese characters that says Do not climb (on the tank). If you look to the background on left corner, I think there's a Q-5 there on static display on the roof.

[MIGleader]

i dont think they are light michina guns. althoug it may resemlble a maxim, the cooling tubew goes areoung the barrel, not over it. and the barrels are too wide. like in a ciiws, the ammo is probably held in the boxes inside the weapion. definitly cannons.

[sino52C]

anti-air cannons?

why are they facing up.

[Su-27 Pilot]

anti-air cannons?

why are they facing up.

May be grenade launchers for farther range. Facing up=Extended range.

[Su-27 Pilot]

I think I heard somewhere that they are flame throwers.

Flame throwers facing upwards ready to flame any enemy jets. "rolleyes"

[MIGleader]

i know, theyre aerosol cannons ready to axe bomb enemy troops!:D

[Red Guard]

what the hell???? it is in china, it's at the carrier, in tianjin, i suppose? i will ask people what that is on chinese forum, give me a minute.

[Su-27 Pilot]

i know, theyre aerosol cannons ready to axe bomb enemy troops!:D

Flame throwers and Grenade launchers are the best against infantry troops.

[adeptitus]

I think it's unlikely that those things are guns, because I don't see any ammo magazines or belt feed. I doubt they'd install guns with just 1 shot each.

It's also not likely that they're flame throwers. You don't need 12 barrels for a flame thrower system, plus I don't see any liquid cylinders.

IMO they're prolly some kind of grenade or rocket?

[BrotherofSnake]

Flame throwers and Grenade launchers are the best against infantry troops.
Flamethrowers are better at taking out bunkers and people hiding in caves.

[ahho]

I think it's unlikely that those things are guns, because I don't see any ammo magazines or belt feed. I doubt they'd install guns with just 1 shot each.

It's also not likely that they're flame throwers. You don't need 12 barrels for a flame thrower system, plus I don't see any liquid cylinders.

IMO they're prolly some kind of grenade or rocket?

i remember australian has the fasttest anti air gun that is like that box shape

[chinawhite]

The machine gun your talking about is called metal storm.

Anyway those things look like cannons to me. maybe 20mm?

[Red not Dead]

The machine gun your talking about is called metal storm.

Anyway those things look like cannons to me. maybe 20mm?

There is that bascule on the side of each boxes... that would make the go un tp 90° ...

AA 14.5mm guns

[MIGleader]

these guns are just for show. why in the worl would the chinese put more guns on an outdated t-34?

[Red not Dead]

these guns are just for show. why in the worl would the chinese put more guns on an outdated t-34?


maybe because the system itself it's outdated...

[chinawhite]

its where the kiev or mirsk is. you can see it in the background


What 14.5mm has a barrel like that?

THey look like 20mm to me

[adeptitus]

Slovakian T-72M1 with 20mm cannons (check out length of barrel):
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t72/t726.html

If those things on the T-34 are guns, I have to think the effective range is a bit short due to its short barrels.

[MIGleader]

perhaps the tubes fire rokets, like a version of the sherman.

[Su-27 Pilot]

these guns are just for show. why in the worl would the chinese put more guns on an outdated t-34?

True. For shows only

perhaps the tubes fire rokets, like a version of the sherman.

Reminds me of BF 1942's Secret Weapons of World War 2.

[Red not Dead]

its where the kiev or mirsk is. you can see it in the background


What 14.5mm has a barrel like that?

THey look like 20mm to me


have you seen a KPV before?

http://pvo.guns.ru/images/guns/zpu2/AA_KPV_01.jpg

Slovakian T-72M1 with 20mm cannons (check out length of barrel):
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t72/t726.html

If those things on the T-34 are guns, I have to think the effective range is a bit short due to its short barrels.


That's an immediate-postWW2/WW2 developement son no need for enormous range...in order to strafe AT planes had to go under the 100 m range

[Longaxe]

I can tell you one thing for sure it’s an anti aircraft system and those are not 14.5mm. There is no way that a T-34 turret can track any aircraft in a meaning full way. I don’t think it can elevate past 35 degrees, and even aiming at ground troops will be hard. I think that it is a 12 battled flame thrower system that was going to be used in a beach assault on Taiwan, to clean beach obstacles, land mines and bunkers. The barrels likely can be positioned at slightly different angles, and fuel can be pumped into then at different speeds to increase the spread of the weapons. The fuel will be stored in the hull. This t-34 tank is now parked in front of the Minsky.

[Red not Dead]

I can tell you one thing for sure it’s an anti aircraft system and those are not 14.5mm. There is no way that a T-34 turret can track any aircraft in a meaning full way. I don’t think it can elevate past 35 degrees, and even aiming at ground troops will be hard. I think that it is a 12 battled flame thrower system that was going to be used in a beach assault on Taiwan, to clean beach obstacles, land mines and bunkers. The barrels likely can be positioned at slightly different angles, and fuel can be pumped into then at different speeds to increase the spread of the weapons. The fuel will be stored in the hull. This t-34 tank is now parked in front of the Minsky.


Yo stup that "thing" isn't going to be used. It's simply a show off. And my hand to cut that thing has at least four decades on its' rusty back. Fuel?

Attached on a 50mm armored turret? I mean you can't be serious can you? The first RPG/panzerfauste/AT4 on that turret and you'll have PLA BBQ.

[Wingman]

I'm forgetting my Chinese
It says T-34系列坦克

What does 系列 mean?

[pathfinder]

I'm forgetting my Chinese
It says T-34系列坦克

What does 系列 mean?
series

[Wingman]

Aww... too bad... I thought those characters were supposed to give a hint at the tank's role

Judging by the appearance of these things, they don't appear to be intended to be accurate. Short barrel, placed in box of fours in a crude fashion, no targetting mechanism.

So they can't be AA guns. AA guns need to be accurate

I don't think they're flame throwers either. If you want a flame thrower with huge coverage you just need a single barrel and swing it around. Besides, 8 flame thrower barrels would seriously overheat the boxes

They could be... small machine guns to provide cover fire against infantry

My guess though is that it's an experimental design for shooting down incoming missiles and rockets, but was unsuccessful so it ended up becoming a display piece.

It's hard to aim a gun at a missile even if you're gun is accurate, so the solution would be to have many guns put together to give high volume of fire and high total fire rate (fire rate of all guns combined) and shoot them all in the general direction of the missile, one of them's gotta hit. Because it relies on volume, fire rate, and chance, a good targetting device is not important.

And because a missile only spends short time reaching your tank, you don't need to fire at it for extended periods of time, so less ammo is required. The ammo are probably kept within the box

I think the biggest problem would be that the guns are fixed to the turret so it turns too slowly in response to missiles. It could make sense if your turret is already pointed at some target, then that target suddenly shoots a rocket at you so you immediately light up your anti-missile guns and try to shoot it down.

[Costas 240GD]

IMHO it may be a technology/concept demonstrator for a turret mounted multiple AGL for tanks, to be used to provide suppressive fire against entrenched or concealed infantry.

[sumdud]

perhaps the tubes fire rokets, like a version of the sherman.
IMHO it may be a technology/concept demonstrator for a turret mounted multiple AGL for tanks, to be used to provide suppressive fire against entrenched or concealed infantry.
Yeap, I'd agree those are rocket launchers.
I don't know about the Shermans, but I did saw on a book a Pershing tank w/ rocket launchers for extended range of action.

[Mao23]

they can't be smoke launchers for they are a bit too big. if it is a rocket launcher then what are the things on top of the barrels? i think they a grenade launchers for the thing on the top may store the ammo and grenade launchers don't really have long barrels.

[Kampfwagen]

My guess? Some bizzare sensory system. Just because it LOOKS like a gun dosent nesciarily mean it IS a gun. Mabey some sort of infared system made after the T-34 was obsolete to act as a mobile detection platform against planes? Hell, might even be primitive laser designation technology.

[MIGleader]

if you look at how the "things" are attacked, they are made to elevate withthe main gun. so my guess is that they cannons, not aaa. if they were aa, they could not elevate high enogh.

[RedMercury]

Hate to break it to you guys, they're flamethrowers.
Yes, they don't look like them. Yes, there are a lot of them.
But they're definately flamethrowers, based on the text that isn't inlcuded with the photo. Of course, believe me as you will, since my info is second hand as well.