China's MRE

[Azn boy]

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[Red Guard]

what MRE? meal ready for eat?
i am so glad that they are issuing such stuff. but how much, that's what i care about the most.

[lazzydigger]

"Meals Ready to Eat"
don't look down on these, these little packs are essential in keeping the troop's moral in fields.
The Aussie individual ration pack is about 1kg. Enough for one day. Fits nicely in the gun ammo punch. Nothing beat brewing up in a cold wet morning/evening. :D

One do have gets really inventive to make the best out of it. I normaly have the muesli bar, cheddar and tea for breafast, short bread and condensed milk for morning tea(they can be enjoyed easily while on movements). Lunch is important, I will have the Meat Can with a bit left over cheddar from the morning. Afternoon tea is cracker biscuits and vegemite(created from beer making resisdual, it has a love it or hate it taste). Dinner will be what ever that were left over. fast noddle is nice and quick. but frozen rice..... that is so what a difficult task. take at lest 20 minutes. I have to flavor it with any souce I can find in the pack with salt and pepper. Dessert normally will be the fruit can. Chocolate, lifesaver and chowing gum are essential for picketing in the night.

I found the following on the net regarding Aussie's ration packs. It is synical, but true:
found the speil on the web 'I ate an army rations pack' very amusing, not sure if you will get a laugh out of it or if it is only funny to those who have been forced to live on these packets of culinary genius.

I will however have to add some observations:

Firstly as you will see in his list he has not even touched on the good stuff! The cans or in modern packs bags of main meals!! I have only commented on the bits he commented on but have listed the ones he forgot to mention.

Beef & vegetables (Dutch style)
Minced beef with spaghetti
Shortbread biscuits
Apricot & Coconut muesli bar
Anzac muesli bar
Peach fruit spread
Tomato sauce
Diced peaches in a can
Crispbread crackers
Cheddar cheese
Tea & Coffee
Shortbread biscuits
Candy
Chocolate ration
Ok I admit this is nothing like chocolate but the block shown is more than likely about 10 years out of date (eh it's a ration pack so 10 years is ok this stuff will last forever) and while still good to eat I would not like to try it.

Beverage Base Powder
I cannot believe this guy could drink this poo, This is one of the items that never gets touched in my pack, plain water is fine by me.:mad:

Processed Cheddar Cheese
I do basically agree with this one, the cheese is one of the first things I reach for in the pack.

Sweetened Condensed Milk
Spot on with this one, but hey I love my Condensed milk I would more than likely consume it even if it was brown.

Cream of Chicken
Never have and Never will be game enough to try this.

Curry Powder
This and the Tabasco are just what they say they are, Go ahead and play.

Freeze Dried Rice
Not really for a fast meal this does take forever to cook and when your doing it in a cup canteen with a stove and hexamine it makes for 30 minutes of your life you will never get back.:(

Apricot Fruit Grains
mmmmm!! I really don't mind this just as a snack to nibble on. I have friends who like to cook their rice and add the Condensed milk and bits to make a very strange version of rice cream, I have not tried it but hey maybe next time I am living on rations I will have a spare half hour.

Plastic Spoon
Its a spoon your moron! I mean this guy bleeted about the spoon but what would he have us eat with, an fluoro yellow Spork?

Vegemite
Most packs come with Crackers so I see the merit of vegemite, and if you ever tasted plain Rat Pack crackers you would be saying "Pass the vegemite please":)

Juicy Fruit
Its gum plain and simple, at least he was not given the weird packet of banana flavoured life saver look-a-like lollies

Jam Sandwich
Plain and simple I don't like these in or out of a ration pack.

U.S regular army get hot "chow" trucked in to their positions. The poor reservlist diggers have to watch them enjoy the cool base facility that army engineers built for them in envy while eat our cold ration. At least, we don't have to find where they are with active patrols. Just watch where the chopper and truck goes. Next thing, we make a quiet call the Mr. Gollevainen for a few nice superises. Hay, we are the "enemy troops", and we know how to play dead too.

How is guys from other forces? I heard that french have 350ml of red wine and russian's get their vodka and cigarettes.

Last thing, a good job for the Chinese to provide soon much more fun for the lil gun fodders, for party, country and nation's ppl.

Cheers

Digger

[Mr_C]

Oh hello fellow Digger,
Nice to see another Dig in here. Yes i love my ration pack too. I remember being put on sentry and did not have enough time to eat. So as a medical scientist i just decided to swallow the entire pack of cordial powder and it went down like sand. It also tasted really really nasty. But it got me going until lunch and that was after a 30km march. My favourite is the spagetti and sasauge. mmmmmmmm and the can opener, it always comes in handy in weird situations.

oh yes, u r absolutely right about the age of the chocolate bars. And eating it on a very hot day in the aussie bush gives eating weird chocolate a new dimension.

[rommel]

i think that the canadian army MRE are the best, and my favorite meal is the smoke salmon, unbeatable. We don't have can, only in the scelled metallic bag and I founded funny that some brother-in-arm made a note about the age of the ration, I remember eating this ration of 1992 and the bar of mint chocolate inside, didn't taste very good... and I also remember the compressed package of toilet paper, a bit weird...

[Liberator]

Digger

Are you Austrilian?

These MRE look nice. Wanna eat em. Cookies.!!!

[sino52C]

neocon= neo conservative.

very conservative.

American's MREs were notorious for their bad taste prior to Afghanistan. They were called Meals Rejected by the Enemy.

[ahho]

i thought neo is new

also compressed package of toilet paper????:p must go to the site to check out. man all this year in canada and i never heard this:D

[lazzydigger]

Are you Austrilian?

These MRE look nice. Wanna eat em. Cookies.!!!

Yup. Mr C and I are both Australians. I am an ex-reservlist while he is the current one, I think. Mr c, r u the one shot the body armor?

Lazzydigger

[lazzydigger]

Meals Rejected by the Enemy.

Haha. that is funny.:D

[FriedRiceNSpice]

All we Chinese kids need is a teabag sized portion of rice a day and we're good to go.

[Mr_C]

Yup. Mr C and I are both Australians. I am an ex-reservlist while he is the current one, I think. Mr c, r u the one shot the body armor?

Lazzydigger

Hi ther LazzyDigger.... lazy is good...it keeps u alife.... sometimes. Well I am no longer in the army..... i have had enough of their "F$@king around" (good old digger terminlogy). ANd they still owe me $340 in pay. Also i am Aussie and Chinese. Which unit were u in?

Ohh sorry..... back on topic.... well u know that rice stuff in the ration packs. They really suck from a Asian point of view. As a rule... never trust a white man with cooking rice. no offense.

[lazzydigger]

Hi Mr C. I was with Sydney Uni Regiment.

Mr G, how is the chow in Finnish army?

[BrotherofSnake]

Whats a digger?

[Liberator]

Whats a digger?

Digger = Soldier in Austrilian. DUH.. Lol.:rofl:

[adeptitus]

If any of you guys are actually interested in trying out the MRE's, you can mail order from the US. Just do a search for "MRE" and you'll find lots of mail order companies offering them as emergency food supplies.

Personally, I stock freeze dried meals from Mountain House (www.mountainhouse.com) for emergencies - I live in a earthquake zone. The freeze dried pouch "backpacker food" is easily found at local sports shops and have shelf life of 5+ years. They also offer canned stuff with 30+ year shelf life, though I'd be scared of eating anything 30 years old.

[Gollevainen]

Mr G, how is the chow in Finnish army?

Chow?

[Obcession]

Chow?

Chow is a slang for meal.

[Gollevainen]

Chow is a slang for meal.

oh, thanks...english slang is bit alien to me...

Well Finnish army food sucks...as it propaply do in every military. Tough there's two main variations in the food, the one eated in the mess and ones eaten in the woods...I'm must confess that there is few better things than messfood (regardless what it is) after exhausing days in the woods where you had to eat this unspeakble junk from "pakki" (every finnish soldiers personal field cup(?), sort a metal can or pot) in -30 degree whitout hat. ( finnish soldiers are not allowed to wear hats in the indoors, nor be whitout hat in outdoors, exept when eating, then it's stricly forbidden to wear any sort of hat...regardless what the temperature is...). The worst thing is in the gungroup, it almoust everytime was so, that when the shootings started, ofcourse the meal arrived at the same time. As there must be all the time at least three person in the Gun, few guys must fecth all the food to the rest of the group...and they usually where always the same dudes..so there they went to the command post (the food always comes to the battery command posts, never straight away to the firing platoons) wich usually is about 1 km away from the guns...so you can quess if the food was never warm...tough you didn't have much time to moarn about it as you got only about 2 mins to eat the whole thing. Or if you wheren't fast enough you could leave the food on top of those various boxes laying around on the fire position...ques what happens when the gun is fired...hmm where did those pakki's went?
The food in the woods where made by fellow conscripts and it was more of a rule that the most lazyest and uncapaple ones got to be the "spade". So you can imagine the effort that they put on every meal...and all this was not helped by those urban legends and rumours that when we drove the 900 km from our base to the firing area to the longest and hardest firetraining camp, some "spade" suddenly got urgent need to go to the toilett, the cars didn't stop so he had to use the sole pots and dishes available...the food cans...and he didn't needed to take a leak....

[adeptitus]

EEWWWWW X_X

In other news:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3266469.stm

Malaysian troops get six meals a day

By Jonathan Kent
BBC, Kuala Lumpur

Napoleon Bonaparte's adage that an army marches on its stomach has been given new life in Malaysia.

After a major review of its soldiers' diet, the country's defence ministry has announced that they will be given six meals a day.

Food is something of a national obsession in Malaysia but the new ration regime in the Malaysian army might even have Napoleon wondering how much time will be left for marching between meals.

The changes are the result of the first review of army food carried out in 10years.

It concluded that soldiers need more calories.

They currently get breakfast, lunch and dinner but from the beginning of January, the three additional daily snacks soldiers now receive will be replaced by full meals.

Malaysia's Defence Minister Najib Tun Razak said these might feature dishes like biriyani rice and chapatti bread, staples enjoyed by Malaysia's large Tamil community.

Chinese regional dishes and even Thai food could feature, so varied is Malaysia's ethnic make-up.

But since most of the 110,000 members of the armed forces are Malay Muslims, any food served would have to meet strict Islamic guidelines.

Mr Najib jokingly told troops that they would have to watch their body mass index - a polite way of telling them to make sure they do not get fat.

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Sorry Gollevainen, had you served in the Malaysian armed forces, you'd have been eating a plate of hot roti canai with curry dipping sauce:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Roti_prata.jpg

[lazzydigger]

Gollevainen, thanks for sharing.:) They say there are 3 ways to prepare food, the right way, the wrong way and the army way. The army way are generally resemble the wrong way.

The hats rule is about same for all army. Being in Australia, we don't have to endure -30c temperature. But we do have the opposites.. it can be incredibly hot and humid, yet cold, wet and miserable before the dawn(we normally only bring summer cloth to camps). Mess food is ok.. but as you said, it will look wonderful when one just come back from the woods. The reservelist here do have some advantages, some of our cook are professional chief in daily life. So occasionally, we get some decent food from the stores. Especially when HQ bring hot soup to the front line units.... it goes down sooooo well in the morning.:D

Any way.. I think even the might U.S. Army will lose to the Malay troops... 6 meal a day!! That is not soldier feeding... it is a pig farm! (appologies to any Malay supportor). I do have to say that I will enough a soldier's life there.:roll:

Lazzy digger

[Knarfo]

oh, thanks...english slang is bit alien to me...

Well Finnish army food sucks...as it propaply do in every military. Tough there's two main variations in the food, the one eated in the mess and ones eaten in the woods...I'm must confess that there is few better things than messfood (regardless what it is) after exhausing days in the woods where you had to eat this unspeakble junk from "pakki" (every finnish soldiers personal field cup(?), sort a metal can or pot) in -30 degree whitout hat. ( finnish soldiers are not allowed to wear hats in the indoors, nor be whitout hat in outdoors, exept when eating, then it's stricly forbidden to wear any sort of hat...regardless what the temperature is...).

Aaah...brings back memories...
During my recent stint at the tip of the spear that defends our independence ;) i noticed that the food at the armoured brigade or what ever it is called nowadays after stupidly ditching their infantry, is actually quite good and you can take as much as you like!! Admittedly I ate only three meals there, so maybe I was lucky. We also ate once at Tikkakoski on our way back from rovajärvi. In Rovajärvi we were one of those lucky few that got most our food made at the main canteen in Heinuvaara. Since our technical maintaince company was "somewhat" understrenght we had loads of extra evening snacks which include barbaque sausages, pizzas (really!), riisifrutti, yoghurt, karjalan piirakoita (karelian paistry??) and various soups. If we only had some beer too. Also the mobile coffe/snack bar made a couple of stops near us per day. We ate munkkis like pigs. At least those of us in the HQ platoon. However we did not get any peasoup and pancakes:(





The worst thing is in the gungroup, it almoust everytime was so, that when the shootings started, ofcourse the meal arrived at the same time. As there must be all the time at least three person in the Gun, few guys must fecth all the food to the rest of the group...and they usually where always the same dudes..so there they went to the command post (the food always comes to the battery command posts, never straight away to the firing platoons) wich usually is about 1 km away from the guns...so you can quess if the food was never warm...tough you didn't have much time to moarn about it as you got only about 2 mins to eat the whole thing. Or if you wheren't fast enough you could leave the food on top of those various boxes laying around on the fire position...ques what happens when the gun is fired...hmm where did those pakki's went?
The food in the woods where made by fellow conscripts and it was more of a rule that the most lazyest and uncapaple ones got to be the "spade". So you can imagine the effort that they put on every meal...and all this was not helped by those urban legends and rumours that when we drove the 900 km from our base to the firing area to the longest and hardest firetraining camp, some "spade" suddenly got urgent need to go to the toilett, the cars didn't stop so he had to use the sole pots and dishes available...the food cans...and he didn't needed to take a leak....

:eek:
I was once assigned to a heavily understaffed supply platoon. Keeping a whole company plus an assigned at-platoon feed was not an easy task. Those cooks got actually quite hard work and long days if they have to make stuff from scratch. Luckily it was winter which made keeping good hygene a bit easier.
Regarding eating out. I was mostly too tired to care much about taste. I just mashed everything togehter in the pakki and .... uuuuh...enjoyed. :D

[Gollevainen]

In Rovajärvi we were one of those lucky few that got most our food made at the main canteen in Heinuvaara. Since our technical maintaince company was "somewhat" understrenght we had loads of extra evening snacks which include barbaque sausages, pizzas (really!), riisifrutti, yoghurt, karjalan piirakoita (karelian paistry??) and various soups. If we only had some beer too. Also the mobile coffe/snack bar made a couple of stops near us per day. We ate munkkis like pigs. At least those of us in the HQ platoon. However we did not get any peasoup and pancakes

We also had quite good evening snacks...one thing that kept us sane...and the sotkuauto...(cantteencar?) was like charriot of angels...:)

Those cooks got actually quite hard work and long days if they have to make stuff from scratch. Luckily it was winter which made keeping good hygene a bit easier.

Looking it afterwards i have much more respect to all those which we despied during the servicetime...

...but as pleasent and relaxing it is to relive those days..let's not forget the orginal topic and china....;)

[Mr_C]

Hi Mr C. I was with Sydney Uni Regiment.

Mr G, how is the chow in Finnish army?

I was in 4/3 RNSWR and then transfer 1HSB.

Food i love my food. WHat r u taking about Aussie Mess food is super excellent.

[rommel]

Wow, Mr C and lazzydigger, were you infantryman ???

[lazzydigger]

Hi Rommel:

I was an infantryman. I am not sure about Mr C. He might be part of officer cadet.

lazzy digger

[rommel]

Hi Rommel:

I was an infantryman. I am not sure about Mr C. He might be part of officer cadet.

lazzy digger


Greeting lazzydigger

Happy to see that I'm not the lone footman around there. Where you a rifleman or a specialize soldier ???

[lazzydigger]

Glad to see that u a grunt too. I just a good old humble grunt, didn't go specialize.

[rommel]

So how's the australian army ?? Is it hard or relax like us over here (at least for the reservist like me :P) What's your service weapon in Autralia ?? Talk about your army, I'd like to see how australian infantry reserve are different of canadian infantry reserve.

[adeptitus]

Since we're on the topic of MRE's:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051017/od_nm/hurricanes_meals_dc;_ylt=AsVntMbBIMyadQOr1kllD1es0 NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3NW1oMDRpBHNlYwM3NTc-

U.S. rejects Katrina meals, offers them to others

Mon Oct 17,12:12 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Friday offered needy countries more than 330,000 packaged meals donated by Britain to feed Hurricane Katrina victims but rejected due to a U.S. ban on British beef.
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State Department spokesman Adam Ereli said the "Meals Ready to Eat," or MREs, had been held in a warehouse in Little Rock, Arkansas, for more than a month after U.S. Agriculture Department officials said they could not be distributed in the United States because they contained British beef products.

"We are certainly, for our part, looking to dispose of these MREs that were offered in the spirit of friendship and charity. We are looking to dispose of them in the same way," Ereli told a State Department briefing.

The United States bans the import of products containing British beef because of fears of mad cow disease, a chronic, degenerative disease affecting the central nervous system of cattle.

An additional 33,000 MREs from Germany, Russia, Spain and France had also not been distributed to hurricane victims because of U.S. legal restrictions, Ereli said without elaborating.

[lazzydigger]

So how's the australian army ?? Is it hard or relax like us over here (at least for the reservist like me :P) What's your service weapon in Autralia ?? Talk about your army, I'd like to see how australian infantry reserve are different of canadian infantry reserve.

The Australian army reserve recevies the same training as the regulars, just not as frequent as the regulars. The service weapon are Steyr AUG (F88). A very nice piece of equipment. easy to assemble and clean, and fairly accurate. SAW is Minimi(F89), two gun per section. Pistol is only issued when needed. COLT, M9 and some others have been seen. compaurrny firesupport have M60 pig and 82 mortar. We spent most time in bush. The Whole Aussie army are "bush masters". We fight base on active patrolling, and silent attacks. if 2 or less enemy are found, a section will attack them. If there are more, we will call fire support. Every one are trained on "all arms call for fire". The weakness is air defence and anti armor. The 40mm rocket is good for killing soft target and light Armored Vehicle, but not a real tank. Come to think of it, RAAF's F18 don't really have much of a match in surronding territory. And landing a sizable tank force in Australia is very very difficult. Reserve force is more a defensive force, so we don't trained much on anti armor warfare. Negotiating with harsh terrian is more useful for what we needed.

I'd say that we are light infantry ready to fight a limited regional battle.

They say Aussies and canadian are very much alike:D . The atmosphere is relaxed with a lot of hurry up and wait. A trait of Infantry. The Marchs are base on UK style with Australian salute.

Hope these helps

Lazzy Digger

[rommel]

Interesting.

Well, Canadian Army reserve are very similiar to Australian Army reserve, we train once a week, 1 or 2 week-end per month with the same training than the regular. But it seems, we got some different weapon, C7A1 rifle, Browning HP35 for gunner and NCO, P226 for officer (in theory), we don't have M60, only FN MAG instead. But we fight differently, we are trained to almost never call in support, we trained more on counter-infantry and sometime antitank. We use M72 and Carl Gustav for AT and 60mm and 81mm mortar for support. But it's true that we are really relax too, normally, it's 2 section in course while the 3rd one is relaxing (watching hockey most of the times) and we rotate like that maybe 8 time per 3-hour training.

Rommel

[rice]

i think that the canadian army MRE are the best, and my favorite meal is the smoke salmon, unbeatable. We don't have can, only in the scelled metallic bag and I founded funny that some brother-in-arm made a note about the age of the ration, I remember eating this ration of 1992 and the bar of mint chocolate inside, didn't taste very good... and I also remember the compressed package of toilet paper, a bit weird...

the new canadian imp's are some of the best field meals around

compared to the US mre's they are much better tasting and faster to heat

american heat packs are extraordinarily problematic

personal favourites for imp's have to be the turkey stew or scallop potatoes and ham

[Mr_C]

Wow, Mr C and lazzydigger, were you infantryman ???

I was also an infantry grunt but then transferred to Medical Corps as a medical scientist. There is no relaxing in infantry...only pain and suffering.

[adeptitus]

Speaking of PLA MRE's and meals:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=69068

*** VERY GOOD ***
Photo of military meals around the world (not necessarily accurate, but fun to view):
http://www.cominganarchy.com/images/rations.jpg

If you look at the "Taiwanese military" photo, in the center is a pack of biscuits. Back when I lived in Taiwan they sold very similiar biscuits in plain packaging as emergency food (Taiwan has many typhoons every year). It was kinda plain but served as cheap snacks for kids, until they got tired of it and refused to eat it.

http://www.edu.cn/20050325/3132260.shtml
China's Army Marches on Satisfied Stomach
2005-03-25

How does the food in a Chinese soldier's knapsack taste when he is on manoeuvres?

"Well, not bad," answered a group of foreign military attaches with their thumbs up yesterday in Beijing after tasting the Chinese army's newest rations. A lot more goes into soldiering food than into an average 'niurou mian.'

The provisions have to be lightweight as well as durable and not taste awful, as people generally imagine.

The newly developed self-heating fried rice and noodles were praised by the military officers who said the rations satisfied both their stomachs and their taste buds.

Even the improved compressed cereal has become a tasty snack.

"Well, Chinese food is always good," said Frank Miller, a colonel from the US Embassy in China.

He said back in his country the staple food for soldiers includes bread, sandwiches and noodles.

At the invitation of the Foreign Affairs Office of the Ministry of National Defence, 84 foreign military attaches from 57 countries visited the Quartermaster Equipment Institute of General Logistics Department of Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) yesterday.

The institute focuses on research, development and pilot manu-facturing of military equipment such as rations, uniform, and body armour.

Some say that military uniforms set apart those who wear them. For the group of attaches, that feeling was highlighted during a visit to the protective clothing and material laboratory of the institute.

"It was amazing," said Colonel Basnyat from the Nepalese Embassy in China. "The uniform I am wearing now is made in China and I now know it has very good and special quality," he said. The Nepalese Government began to import its uniforms a couple of years ago.

Miller, from the United States, said high technology supports the institute's work.

Hwang Ho-sung from the Republic of Korea said he was not only happy to join the tour but looked forward to similar events in the future.

The Foreign Affairs Office of the Ministry of National Defence started organizing visits to both army organizations and to observe military exercises.

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Lots of interesting PLA MRE pics (scroll down to PLA 1976 meal photos from "Sun Bin"):
http://www.cominganarchy.com/archives/2005/10/16/rations/

Also, PLA MRE's are now avail in the civilian market:
http://www.8264.com/ad/food/

[adeptitus]

MRE Articles:
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/200572103224.asp
The Best Field Rations?
by Harold C. Hutchison
July 21, 2005

http://www.mreinfo.com/images/gallery-uk/article.jpg
The Gourmet (British) Army
Instead of hotpot and dumplings, troops will go into battle with tuna in a lime and coriander sauce
By Matthew Hickley

Japanese MRE page:
http://phototec.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mretop.htm

The French RCIR MRE:
http://www.mreinfo.com/france.html
Check the Menu items. :D

Russian MRE Review:
http://www.mreinfo.com/russian_ration_review.html
"I would not eat the ration again, the taste and quality are not good.
The two main meals are full of fat and oil - not enough spices and too much salt - but a lot of beef. I had to heat it in the microwave. It's like food from the Middle Ages."

Even the cow on the Russian beef can looks angry:
http://www.mreinfo.com/images/ru/russian-ration-th-parts04.jpg

Versus French ration had happy cow (scroll down a bit):
http://www.mreinfo.com/france-rcir-opened2.html

[sino52C]

What's with all these cartoon characters and happy colors on the French meals? they look more like a kindgarten's lunch than a MRE.

[Gollevainen]

Well you cannot imagine how big moral boost colourfull backing can be on the woods....It kinda give your a sligth hope that there is still normal urban lfestyle left on the earth and you arent so alienated from it than you migth think. Its even better when they serve normal civil food and snacks...its amazing who single backet of cookies can make the whole horrible day in continuos rain whit the freakin howitzer seem more delighted and sunny...

[lazzydigger]

G man.. can't agree less. My favoriate sight in the woods is that little green solvation army truck. all diggers know there are "Normal" not expired food such like Mars Bar, Chips/crisps, slab of chocolate. ICE cold cordial, and a unbelievable cup of hot coco. One they even had hot meat pie!! It was a god send after 2 day's of drizzle, They almost converted me right there.:D

Lazzy digger

[Gollevainen]

Did you "diggers" had any cantine-trucks coming to the training site? We had these "sotkuauto"s coming once or twice when we where on long exercise...I can say never had better cup of koffee when getting one in the middle of our most exhausing training periods in the Rovajärvi....