Request for help from SD members to find Varyag model Pics [Archive]

Jeff Head

03-07-2007, 08:02 PM

I have been looking all over the net the last week or so for a particular picture of the Varyag completed as a PLAN carrier. It is the one (actually there were several) of the 1:100 scale model of the completed vessel that was produced by the Hardin Technical Institute at their 50th anniversary.

One of them used to be located at the following web address...but it no longer there, or has been made inaccessable:

http://tuku.military.china.com/military/pic/2005-08-11/815841_725708522.jpg

I had originally linked to it on the "Latest Varyag Pics", thread here on SD at post 407, here:

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showpost.php?p=24908&postcount=407

If anyone has a copy of, or knows where any of these pics can be found on the web, please post it to this thread.

I had a request from members on another forum and I want to point them here to SD.

Thanks in advance.

swimmerXC

03-07-2007, 08:14 PM

this?
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/177/51121307le8.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2374/varyag102006mt3.jpg

Jeff Head

03-07-2007, 08:15 PM

this?
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/177/51121307le8.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2374/varyag102006mt3.jpgYES!

hehehe...swimmerXC, YOU ARE THE MAN!

Are there anymore over there?

swimmerXC

03-07-2007, 08:18 PM

YES!

hehehe...swimmerXC, YOU ARE THE MAN!

Are there anymore over there?

Nope, sorry thats all the model I got. Tphuang might have some...

Jeff Head

03-07-2007, 08:21 PM

Nope, sorry thats all the model I got. Tphuang might have some...Already asked tphuang and others in PM...and they could not find them either. However, I should have thought to ask you earlier. You are truly the man when it comes to so many PLAN pics.

Maybe someone else will find more. I know there were others, particularly of the model with all the aircraft on the deck.

But these are great and I will point those other folks here now.

swimmerXC

03-07-2007, 08:23 PM

Already asked tphuang and others in PM...and they could not find them either. However, I should have thought to ask you earlier. You are truly the man when it comes to so many PLAN pics.

Maybe someone else will find more. I know there were others, particularly of the model with all the aircraft on the deck.

But these are great and I will point those other folks here now.

Maybe is you e-mail Richard Fisher, Jr. he'll give you a couple you have enough connections :D
Look at the bottom...
http://www.strategycenter.net/research/pubID.83/pub_detail.asp

swimmerXC

03-07-2007, 08:45 PM

Jeff Head

03-07-2007, 08:55 PM

Did a little searching for you...
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7775/model30707acn9.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9877/model30707bgn6.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8239/model30707clt5.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5482/model30707dqj4.jpg
As I said...you are the man. These are exactly the pictures I have been looking for. I had forgotten all about imageshack and would never have located them except for your help.

Google was of little help, only leading me to the fact that the model itself was created by Hardin Technical Institute for their 50th anniversary, but not finding any pics. Yahoo, MSN, alta-vista...I could not find these pics anywhere.

Again, thanks so much!

swimmerXC

03-07-2007, 08:58 PM

As I said...you are the man. These are exactly the pictures I have been looking for. I had forgotten all about imageshack and would never have located them except for your help.

Google was of little help, only leading me to the fact that the model itself was created by Hardin Technical Institute for their 50th anniversary, but not finding any pics. Yahoo, MSN, alta-vista...I could not find these pics anywhere.

Again, thanks so much!

Keep this link on your bookmark, I narrowed the search down only to "中国航母"
which means Chinese Aircraft Carrier...
http://tuku.military.china.com/user/displayPic?cID=military&searchkey=%D6%D0%B9%FA%BA%BD%C4%B8
Type in "中国航母" in Google, and go to images and some of these pictures will appear

Jeff Head

03-07-2007, 10:45 PM

Keep this link on your bookmark, I narrowed the search down only to "中国航母"
which means Chinese Aircraft Carrier...
http://tuku.military.china.com/user/displayPic?cID=military&searchkey=%D6%D0%B9%FA%BA%BD%C4%B8
Type in "中国航母" in Google, and go to images and some of these pictures will appearThanks...that makes a HUGE difference on google. My not being able to write Chinese (maybe I should just use a tanslator), kept me from doing that. Bookmarked and saved...I also have saved the pics themselves this time and will have them on my server.

bd popeye

03-07-2007, 10:46 PM

swimmer is the man when it comes to this type of PLAN pics....

I swear these were posted in a thred some time ago. But I can't find it. Swimmer was it in the old forum or this one??

swimmerXC

03-07-2007, 10:55 PM

swimmer is the man when it comes to this type of PLAN pics....

I swear these were posted in a thred some time ago. But I can't find it. Swimmer was it in the old forum or this one??

Old I think? It been around for a while...

bd popeye

03-07-2007, 11:04 PM

If it was in the old forum those pics are gone. Many of the pics posted there are gone for some reason.

Thanks again for finding those pics!!!!

Jeff Head

03-07-2007, 11:17 PM

If it was in the old forum those pics are gone. Many of the pics posted there are gone for some reason.

Thanks again for finding those pics!!!!Okay, I have saved them, cleaned them up a bit, and uploaded them to my own site. Here are the ones I am saving:

http://www.jeffhead.com/redseadragon/PLAN-Varyag-Model-01.jpg

http://www.jeffhead.com/redseadragon/PLAN-Varyag-Model-02.jpg

http://www.jeffhead.com/redseadragon/PLAN-Varyag-Model-03.jpg

http://www.jeffhead.com/redseadragon/PLAN-Varyag-Model-04.jpg

Sundog

03-08-2007, 12:44 AM

Jeff Head

03-08-2007, 07:23 AM

JeffHead,

Thank you so much for locating those pictures. I have been to China twice, and worked with numerous Chinese on engineering projects, and I don't think we have any automatic guarantee of staying ahead of them technologically.
You are welcome...but the thanks really go to SwimmerXC. I could not find them myself, but he was able to not only find them, but show me with written Chinese how to find them myself. Again...many thanks SwimmerXC!

benoit306

03-09-2007, 05:06 AM

très très intéressant site ; je suis enchanté:china:

Jeff Head

03-09-2007, 09:16 AM

très très intéressant site ; je suis enchanté:china:Hmmm...Vielen Dank, daß freut mich. SinoDefense is the best open, public site on the web that I know of for discussing Chinese military matters and how they relate to other nations.

cooker

05-31-2007, 02:31 PM

i think carrier borne j-8II would be very unlikely since it has insufficient payload and range.

Jeff Head

05-31-2007, 02:38 PM

i think carrier borne j-8II would be very unlikely since it has insufficient payload and range.Agreed. I do not know who made some of the models or arranged the planes on them...clearly, there was not much thought given in some of the models to reality.

cooker

05-31-2007, 03:22 PM

the ship seems to have:
8 x 4 YJ-62 ASM
10 x 5 HQ-9 SAM (not sure)
4 x type 730 CIW
2 x Type 75 twelve-barrel 240mm antisubmarine rocket launchers? (not sure)

through this we could tell that varyag posses strong anti-ship and anti-air capability as comparing to other carriers of its class.

szbd

05-31-2007, 10:02 PM

Agreed. I do not know who made some of the models or arranged the planes on them...clearly, there was not much thought given in some of the models to reality.

The models were made by students from Harbin Enginerring University. It is said every PLAN ship's design and development has people graduated from this university paticipated.

cooker

05-31-2007, 11:58 PM

The models were made by students from Harbin Enginerring University. It is said every PLAN ship's design and development has people graduated from this university paticipated.

but during operational states varyag can only have max 10~12 fixed wing planes on deck, there is no way it will reach the amount being placed in the model.

szbd

06-01-2007, 12:38 AM

It's a leisure time activity by those students, not a serious design. They built the model to celebrate their university's XXth aneversary, I don't remember how many years. It's not a graduating project or sth.