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Liberator
09-17-2005, 10:13 PM
Hi all forumers, the link below is all about WW2. I posted in the Chinese history military section because China is involved in WW2.

http://www.world-war-2.info/




chinawhite
09-18-2005, 10:16 PM
they completely missed china :mad: :mad: :mad:

at this link
http://www.world-war-2.info/countries/

# Australia
# Brazil
# Canada
# Newfoundland
# New Zealand
# South Africa
# Soviet Union (from June 1941)
# United Kingdom
# United States (from December 1941)

They managed to include australia south africa and new zealand. while chinese forces were holding 2million japanese.(the bulk of the force) were not included :mad:

Issa
09-19-2005, 11:04 PM
China indeed needs to get more credit for what they achieved during the war. Equipped with sticks and stones, they defeated the biggest military power in SE Asia! Peace be upon them.

Liberator
10-01-2005, 07:32 PM
They managed to include australia south africa and new zealand. while chinese forces were holding 2million japanese.(the bulk of the force) were not included

Yea! Those people are probally Americans (No offense), Americans think Chinese as useless. They just hear Cantonese too much.

Levelworm
10-01-2005, 07:38 PM
Countries that were annexed by, or at war with, Axis Powers before the World War II
Austria (annexed to Germany, "Anschluss", March 13th, 1938)
Ethiopia (annexed by Italy in 1936, after the Abyssinia crisis, independence restored in 1941)
Republic of China (at war with Japan since 1931)

It's here, and I assume it's from 1931-1945 because Japan is still far from its peak when WW2 broke out in 1939, and it maybe that the authors of the website pay more attention to Europe and Pacific.

However it's strange to exclude China from the "Allies list", I think China did have treatment with the Allies.

MIGleader
10-01-2005, 07:44 PM
western rascists!! its easy for the west to say how good they were, and disragard the chinese, indians, indochinese...they all helped the war.

DPRKUnderground
10-01-2005, 08:47 PM
western rascists!! its easy for the west to say how good they were, and disragard the chinese, indians, indochinese...they all helped the war.

Instead of calling us Westerners racist, why don't you do something about it. Contact the site and tell them, then they'll add some stuff. Would that make you happy?

Liberator
10-01-2005, 11:19 PM
Instead of calling us Westerners racist, why don't you do something about it. Contact the site and tell them, then they'll add some stuff. Would that make you happy?

We are simply making rants. Not complaining to change it, and maybe the site designer is so dumb that forgot about history or forgot how to manage his site.

How is calling Westerns racist? If calling westerns is racist, it basically proves that your are racist even if u say Chinese.

patriot
01-03-2006, 05:10 PM
western rascists!! its easy for the west to say how good they were, and disragard the chinese, indians, indochinese...they all helped the war.
Could you tell me how the Indians were involved in the war they worried about their own Independent during the war and actually worked for the Axis to kick out Britain. Indochina was conquer in a week by Japan so it didn't really help the Allies and actually help Japan's resource need.

renmin
01-03-2006, 05:22 PM
dont call westerners racists. there are good americans too. but for Chinese involvment in wars, US history generaly leaves it out of the question. the main reason for leaving china out is probably for the same dumb reason as every thing else, communism. so come on!! racist is alittle too harsh. the most mentioned countries in WWII are US, soviet union, Nazi Germany, Japan, and Great Britain simply because they are the super powers. anyways, for text books, I found lies about the opeam war and that tiananmen square massacre in my history text book. Sorry getting abit off topic. but anyways, China did have to verse one of the greatest super powers of the war and did go thrue many harsh treatment and that is normally not even mentioned. plus the Chinese were on the Allies team not the Axis like what migleader said.Mao did beat back the japanese out of China.

patriot
01-03-2006, 05:38 PM
i'm sorry Renmin but the popular American belief was anti-Communist and anti-China. They made up so many different stuffs about China such as Mao killed 30 million people during his reign, Hu dynasty killed more people than ever before, China insulted India in 1962 not the otherway around, China suffered 200000 casualty in the Sino-Vietnam war and didn't gain a single square inch of land. You could check out more of thoes lies at www.strategypage.com and go to the discussion forum. They are constantly provoking internal conflict for China(Free Tibet, Free Xinjiang, Free Inner Mongolia, Free Manchuria, Free Taiwan, Free Canton) trying to split China. You can also see them talking about how to nuke China.

renmin
01-03-2006, 05:45 PM
i'm sorry Renmin but the popular American belief was anti-Communist and anti-China. They made up so many different stuffs about China such as Mao killed 30 million people during his reign, Hu dynasty killed more people than ever before, China insulted India in 1962 not the otherway around, China suffered 200000 casualty in the Sino-Vietnam war and didn't gain a single square inch of land. You could check out more of thoes lies at www.strategypage.com and go to the discussion forum. They are constantly provoking internal conflict for China(Free Tibet, Free Xinjiang, Free Inner Mongolia, Free Manchuria, Free Taiwan, Free Canton) trying to split China. You can also see them talking about how to nuke China.I see, alot of sheat if you ask me.:mad: first of all, tibet is part of China, I hear this every where, free tibet, China does not own tibet, even in my Chinese class they say the same thing.:nono: all those are part of CHINA!! And Mao did not kill 30 million people. not even close. I dont get it. people say Mao is evil evrywhere but if he was so evil, why did the people of China love him so much?:confused: they made songs, portraits, books, even in class, you recite his sayings. Mao is practicly a god in China. America is my home land but Id wish they change their crazy threary of anti communism. it makes me so angry!

WEN?
01-03-2006, 07:59 PM
how can the people of china hate Mao. i guess westerners don't like him but they have their reasons. he is the creater of the Peoples Rebulic of China. he is not evil but a great man. he formed our country and we should be proud to be a member of it. he made it great and it shall never fall.

renmin
01-03-2006, 08:22 PM
how can the people of china hate Mao. i guess westerners don't like him but they have their reasons. he is the creater of the Peoples Rebulic of China. he is not evil but a great man. he formed our country and we should be proud to be a member of it. he made it great and it shall never fall.no, i dont hate Mao. Mao ze dong is my idol as to almost every other Chinese. But, I live in a country of anti comunists so I must stand up for the comunist party and China. most people dont know why it is evil they just say it because their idiotic parents tought them that way. comunism is not evil and neither is mao. like I said, Mao is like a god to the Chinese. he is someone I, my family, and many others respect

sumdud
01-04-2006, 01:14 AM
Guys, you are getting off topic. 1 more off topic post and this is going to the trash.

patriot
01-04-2006, 01:32 AM
how can the people of china hate Mao. i guess westerners don't like him but they have their reasons. he is the creater of the Peoples Rebulic of China. he is not evil but a great man. he formed our country and we should be proud to be a member of it. he made it great and it shall never fall.

I can summarize some basic reasons for smeared Western-image of Mao
1. He's Communist
2. He calls them imperalist
3. He was anti-Western
4. He's Chinese
5. Cultural Revolution, the Western people saw this as the Holocaust by Mao to kill all his opponents.

Of course, we know that Mao was a patriot leader of China full of nationalism and he did everything for the well being of our country

renmin
01-04-2006, 04:20 PM
I can summarize some basic reasons for smeared Western-image of Mao
1. He's Communist
2. He calls them imperalist
3. He was anti-Western
4. He's Chinese
5. Cultural Revolution, the Western people saw this as the Holocaust by Mao to kill all his opponents.

Of course, we know that Mao was a patriot leader of China full of nationalism and he did everything for the well being of our countryVery, true. Westerns look on a comunist by asuming what they do. quite stubern if you ask me. For the cultural rev. we all know it was a good plan that went horribaly wrong (because of idiots like si ren ban). but westerners look at it diferently AS IF Mao was the next hitler (crap). Mao might have made a few mistakes that took away lives but he only wanted to do good for his people.

Gollevainen
01-04-2006, 05:08 PM
Ok, now i want PM answers from all of you two considering WHAT PARTS OF THE SUMDUD'S WARNING YOU DIDNT UNDERSTAND??

Im getting out of humour here...:nono:

renmin
01-04-2006, 05:21 PM
oops! sorry Gollevainen. OK back to the topic. China and japan were fighting long before WWII officially started. China is considered one of the crucial countries in the war, maybe not one of the super powers, but a important part. mao led his army to battle the Japanese and they did more damage than KMT forces, which is why the japanese are constintly looking for where the comunist soilders are hiding. So I guess you can say Mao was the real threat to the japanese. KMT sufured from poor morale so their soilders were unwilling to fight but Mao was loved by his comrades and that fueled morale so they were willing to risk their lives for China, willing to fight to the last breath.

patriot
01-04-2006, 06:11 PM
OH, sorry

The world sees China as crucial because we have a large population. The Japanese saw this as a problem, so they develop the system of Burn all, Kill All, Take All so starve out China which was kinda right militarily but morally wrong.