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MadMax
05-15-2006, 10:37 PM
it is unfortunatly short but its the first one ive seen so i thought id would post it
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=zh_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.gun-world.net%2fvideoclip%2f95.avi
finally answered my question as to whethere or not the charging handle is reciprocating




SteelBird
05-16-2006, 01:45 AM
it is unfortunatly short but its the first one ive seen so i thought id would post it
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=zh_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.gun-world.net%2fvideoclip%2f95.avi
finally answered my question as to whethere or not the charging handle is reciprocating

My answer is possitive, I can see it very clearly. Actually the AK47 family does the same thing. What I notice is that the gun has much less recoil the AK47, therefore more accuracy. AK47 always jump up when firing. Do you know that AK47's cardrige ejected can hurt anybody who's in its way.

Does type 95 use 5.8mm round?

Nethappy
05-16-2006, 03:20 AM
It has way less recoil, and by the look of it much better handling too. Anyway, almost every combat rifle would give a jump when firing, but it just a matter of how much. Anymore video, this one a bit short.

Gollevainen
05-16-2006, 04:24 AM
Do you know that AK47's cardrige ejected can hurt anybody who's in its way


well I have take multible 'hits' from kalashnikoviks cartiges and i'm still alive...maybe if it hits in the someone's eye...but it isent anyway proplematic...

And the recoil is still rather sissy compared to real rifles and In my personal experience it doesent effect on the accuracy at all. All rifle's hop a bit when fired.

Nethappy
05-16-2006, 06:36 AM
And the recoil is still rather sissy compared to real rifles and In my personal experience it doesent effect on the accuracy at all. All rifle's hop a bit when fired.

Yeah it doesn't effect accuracy when ya tapping, but try to shoot a few more round at a time, you know how much effect recoil have on ya.

Gollevainen
05-16-2006, 06:41 AM
well its rather relative. At least I had no proplems to keep the fire in rather small area (human sized janters) even when firing short brust whit rabid fire.

Nethappy
05-16-2006, 07:02 AM
well its rather relative. At least I had no proplems to keep the fire in rather small area (human sized janters) even when firing short brust whit rabid fire.

Well it really doesn't matter if you had problems or not. As anyone with almost ever rifle can easy hit small area during short brust after some kinda training. Nevertheless, recoil does make it harder, especially when you are using a rifle which is new to you. It really just a matter of getting use to the rocoil from the rifle. But less recoil does make your life easier.

SteelBird
05-16-2006, 07:57 AM
well I have take multible 'hits' from kalashnikoviks cartiges and i'm still alive...maybe if it hits in the someone's eye...but it isent anyway proplematic...

And the recoil is still rather sissy compared to real rifles and In my personal experience it doesent effect on the accuracy at all. All rifle's hop a bit when fired.

Well, well... Golly, I said it hurts, I didn't said it kills, of course you survive by the hits, but it does hurt.

What do you mean by ... sissy compared to real rifles... ? Do you mean Type95 isn't real rifle?

Did you try M-16 before? It's the least recoil rifle I ever used before, you can hold it with one hand shoot all the rounds at one time, but the same thing sounds too hard for a AK47 if not impossible.

Gollevainen
05-16-2006, 08:55 AM
Well, well... Golly, I said it hurts, I didn't said it kills, of course you survive by the hits, but it does hurt.


well actually it doesent even hurt that much...unless you are keeping your face near the ejector and under one meter distance (which isent anyway clewer or wise thing to do) But in normal conditions, it doesent hurt

And by sissy i mean compared to rifle caliber weapons like .30-06 or .308 hunting rifles. Assault rifles are generally descriped as intermediate caliber...

Did you try M-16 before? It's the least recoil rifle I ever used before, you can hold it with one hand shoot all the rounds at one time, but the same thing sounds too hard for a AK47 if not impossible.

well Actually I have shot whit AK whit only one hand...the results werent that statisfactory but I doupt one cannot make much better results whit M-16either....But then again I havent shoot whit M-16 so I dont want to start AK/vs. M-16 depate


Well it really doesn't matter if you had problems or not. As anyone with almost ever rifle can easy hit small area during short brust after some kinda training. Nevertheless, recoil does make it harder, especially when you are using a rifle which is new to you. It really just a matter of getting use to the rocoil from the rifle. But less recoil does make your life easier.

well all rifles have recoils and people uding them generally recons this and knows how to work whit it. When I first time fired whit AK, I was almoust disapointed that it didn't "kicked" that much as all the previous rifles did. The differences between recoils in rifles generally are so small that to a new shooter they all feels the same. You need to be experienced shooter to feel the difference and then again as you are experienced it doesent matters any more:)
But not that i want to undermind the infantry's way to figth, one can really talk about recoil after he have shoot whit howitzer:D :D

Nethappy
05-16-2006, 11:27 AM
well all rifles have recoils and people uding them generally recons this and knows how to work whit it. When I first time fired whit AK, I was almoust disapointed that it didn't "kicked" that much as all the previous rifles did. The differences between recoils in rifles generally are so small that to a new shooter they all feels the same. You need to be experienced shooter to feel the difference and then again as you are experienced it doesent matters any more
But not that i want to undermind the infantry's way to figth, one can really talk about recoil after he have shoot whit howitzer

Actually every rifle AK, M-16, AUG or whatever is it has different level of rocoils when fire at different speed (single round, short brust, full auto). Even experienced shooter required some time to get use to it, of cos the more expeience you are the faster.

It's true a experience shooter can get some fairly accuracy shot from most rifle fairly quickly, however it would still take sometime to use the rifle to use a rifle to it maximum capability. Every rifle have it own advantageous and disadvantageous which need to be or should be mastered.

Golly. The HOWITZER has a bloody big recoil, but you not going to fire it resting on your arm or shoulder. So you can't compare the two. When you do fire your Howitzer rested on your arm or should then you can compare the two. HAHA if you still alive

Gollevainen
05-16-2006, 12:52 PM
No I was mentioning that after feeling thw power of howitzer or even a real Gun, all manheld weapons and their recoil becomes into new perspective....

Nethappy
05-16-2006, 01:05 PM
No I was mentioning that after feeling thw power of howitzer or even a real Gun, all manheld weapons and their recoil becomes into new perspective....

I know what you mean but was just joking. Anyway, it not possible to compare a howitzer of anykind with a handheld weapons and it shouldn't.

Gollevainen
05-16-2006, 02:04 PM
well It is possiple...., but guess my stance would 'open' to you afterwards you have fired whit gun so i wont continue this no more;)

WEN?
05-18-2006, 05:31 AM
Does type 95 use 5.8mm round?

yeh the type 95 does use 5.8mm bullets. just asking but do you guys who have used a bullpop style weapon find the design of the gun kinda annoying. i mean when i was using a AUG for drill it was kinda bits and pieces here and there making it kinda annoying and the handle at the front, wouldn't that be harder to fire while holding that or don't you hold it at all. and does the clip being placed at the back of the gun make reloading harder?

Mr_C
05-18-2006, 10:51 AM
yeh the type 95 does use 5.8mm bullets. just asking but do you guys who have used a bullpop style weapon find the design of the gun kinda annoying. i mean when i was using a AUG for drill it was kinda bits and pieces here and there making it kinda annoying and the handle at the front, wouldn't that be harder to fire while holding that or don't you hold it at all. and does the clip being placed at the back of the gun make reloading harder?

Hello, i have not posted stuff here for quite a while now.
Anyway as a person who used a styer AUG every single day, i must say i kinda like that weapon.
The handle at the front is kinda handy because it gives u a slightly better grip and adds to the stablilty of the rifle during discharge especially when firing from a standing position. But then that is just me. The handle can be closed so u can hold it like a "tradition" rifle if u want. Oh yes the handle makes removing the barrel very handy. But seriously its all a matter of getting used to it.
As for the clip being at the back, well i had no problems reloading it, like i said its all practice, and eventually it just becomes natural.
The only thing i do not like abt the Styer is the cocking handle because it sticks out at an angle which may get damaged when u do stuff. In occasions the entire cocking handle falls off and u r left with a small bit of metal to cock ur weapon, that is when u know ur stuffed.
Looking at the vid the T-95 looks nice, but i wonder if it would be hard to cock the weapon because it seems the space to put ur hand there is so small.

RedMercury
05-18-2006, 01:30 PM
Smaller people have smaller hands :)

I think the past complaints about the type-95 have generally focused on 1) smoke and noise from firing 2) spent cases ejecting too close to the face. Of course the people who were used to type-81s were complaining about the bullpup balance compared to the traditional rifle's balance. Also, people online speculated about the position of the safety (at the magazine) being rather inconvenient. I think this is a rather large design flaw too, but apparently I don't recall reading complaints about this from people who've fired it. As to complaint 1, I read an article that said the smoke was really a problem with the factory oil cooking-off and not a problem after it's all gone.

Note that the "Type-95" isn't just a monolithic piece of equipment, it has gone through subtle design changes. I'm not an expert on this and I only noticed when people in the know pointed out things such as different cooling vents. So it is an evolving weapon, even though the name isn't changing.

Nethappy
05-18-2006, 03:03 PM
Mr C. u seem quite experience with the AUG. Anyway, it the same bloody rifle we use in the Aussie army and the goverment F** up the rifle cos some material and it has some overheading problem.
like i said its all practice, and eventually it just becomes natural.
Anyway back to the reloading problem, if anyone of you who been reading my post. I been trying to tell everyone this and thank you for elaborating my point.
With my personal experience the AUG was actually easy to shoot and handle at longer range then the M-16. Once your use to the front handle, you would find the AUG much easy to easier to handle and you dun need to twist your front hand like you do while holding a tradition rifle. Which IMO much more comfortable.

but i wonder if it would be hard to cock the weapon because it seems the space to put ur hand there is so small.
For a Chinese NO. You must remember this rifle is design for a chinese and most chinse has smaller hands.

think the past complaints about the type-95 have generally focused on 1) smoke and noise from firing 2) spent cases ejecting too close to the face. Of course the people who were used to type-81s were complaining about the bullpup balance compared to the traditional rifle's balance. Also, people online speculated about the position of the safety (at the magazine) being rather inconvenient. I think this is a rather large design flaw too, but apparently I don't recall reading complaints about this from people who've fired it. As to complaint 1, I read an article that said the smoke was really a problem with the factory oil cooking-off and not a problem after it's all gone.

Note that the "Type-95" isn't just a monolithic piece of equipment, it has gone through subtle design changes. I'm not an expert on this and I only noticed when people in the know pointed out things such as different cooling vents. So it is an evolving weapon, even though the name isn't changing.

Anyway after close study of the movie, there didn't seem to be any smoke problem, and it also reallly hard to assumed that the position of safety at the magazine is a major problem cos as long as it within a thumb length there really should be much of a problem. It seem quite to have quite good handle too. But i wouldn't know till I fire one.

China Marines
07-24-2006, 07:53 PM
Which is the price roughly of the Type-95 assaut rifle?

RedMercury
07-24-2006, 09:41 PM
Don't have that number, but for comparison, type-56 is around 600 rmb and type-81 is around 800 rmb. Type 88 sniper rifle is around 2.5k iirc. These are, iirc, procurement costs for PAP or police.

China Marines
07-25-2006, 07:43 AM
Désolé je parle à peine anglais.

Thank you for your answer Red Mercury! But I did not include/understand very well...

The Type-56 cost 600 yuans? Semi have correspond has... 6 euros?! What means "iirc"? :confused:

Inst
08-02-2006, 04:00 PM
About 8 RMB to the USD, and it was like 1.3 USD to the Euro, so... about 67 EUR.

IIRC = If I Recall Correctly