Join PLA anyone?

[petty officer1]

http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060418/1529/305935/305935.jpg
It says, you want to have a jet, Join air force

http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060418/1529/305935/305936.jpg


http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060418/1529/305935/305938.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060418/1529/305935/305939.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060418/1529/305935/305940.jpg

Some poster made by some military fan in china.

[petty officer1]

http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060418/1529/305935/305941.jpg

One more question, Does China have some official posters?

[Roger604]

Nice pics!!! :china:

I only wished there were more Mao Zedong in the posters. I like the classic propaganda posters with the radiating-sun smiling Mao heads. :D

I'm also a little confused about the 2nd Artillery poster. I didn't think they used infantry rockets... only big ballistic missiles and the like.

[MIGleader]

The navy ones cool. it must have been taken from peace mission 05, because a russian destroyer(forgot the name) is behind ddg 168.

[renmin]

You can see some more at this site
http://www.chinamil.com.cn/site1/ztpd/dlgqxch/index.htm
The posters where pretty funny, the 2nd one says, are you a military genius? what are you waiting for, join us!
The 3rd is special operations and the 4th is PAP. The 2nd artillary corp says "2nd artillary corps, whe do not have anyone who wastes time (literally "every one works hard")
Here are some old posters

http://douzelunes.blogspot.com/mao.jpg

http://www.collect.at/di/maopost1.jpg

http://www.noveno-arte.com/weblog/images/china1.jpg

[RedMercury]

I don't know if there are official recruiting posters. I don't think recruiting is a problem. There are plenty of volunteers to pick from.

[King_Comm]

I don't think recruiting is a problem. There are plenty of volunteers to pick from.

==Recruiting is a big problem, there are plenty of volunteers, but most of those are just boys from villages with only year 9 education and can't find real jobs in the civilian world, the PLA isn't very appealing to anyone with decent education or skill.

[PiSigma]

==Recruiting is a big problem, there are plenty of volunteers, but most of those are just boys from villages with only year 9 education and can't find real jobs in the civilian world, the PLA isn't very appealing to anyone with decent education or skill.

where did you get that from??? last time i checked, all service man and women in the forces need to have a high school degree. airforce and navy require university level degree for many jobs. and the military academies are pumping out graduates by thousands a year. also there are many people with Msc and PhDs that's joining the R&D and officer corps

[Gollevainen]

should we start promoting that one of our PRC living kids(if we have anyone) would be 'send' to PLA....as a sort of 'reporter' who would then post all his experiences to share whit the forum...?? Or would it be just a too obvious ticket to get to be sended away by the morning train as we say in here when someone quits from the army prematuraly....

[SteelBird]

should we start promoting that one of our PRC living kids(if we have anyone) would be 'send' to PLA....as a sort of 'reporter' who would then post all his experiences to share whit the forum...?? Or would it be just a too obvious ticket to get to be sended away by the morning train as we say in here when someone quits from the army prematuraly....

Nice idea, Goll. But you should pay high salary from your own pocket, 'coz it's a dangerous job. You know that kid might be considered as a spy, and will be sent to jail or even to hell...

[Gollevainen]

so you think that vip-membership status in SDF isent sufficent enough for prize??:D

anyway, technically he wouldnt be spy, but mere observator....

[Wingman]

I have a question for those of you who are not or have not been in military service, have you ever considered joining? Doesn't have to be PLA. Sometimes I half want to join but nah what's the point. I'll only join if I fail at everything else

[Gollevainen]

lucky you that you have that choice....:rolleyes:

but in my own personal obinion (which doesn't affect att all to my moderation work;) ), I dont thing so highly about kids who rant so much about 'how my country can nuke yours, and PRC would take out taiwan military in mere of houers' ...and then they doesent even bother to join the military

....I mean military is about killing people in most cost effective ways, and any sort of enthustiasm towards it is moraly questionable...so does these kids who just want to brattle about military, never taking or even considering taking real part of it, feel any sort of 'pinch' in their heart?

[Wingman]

Yeah my thoughts exactly
lucky you that you have that choice....:rolleyes:
Hell, I wish my country had mandatory military service, then I don't have to decide whether to join the military or go to university. In truth I wanted to do some military service, perhaps slightly more so than the latter, but not everyone has the option of going to university, and it'd be a waste to throw it away so it's really hard to decide. In the end I went to university but to be honest I wanted the "excuse" to join the military for maybe a few years

[renmin]

I have a question for those of you who are not or have not been in military service, have you ever considered joining? Doesn't have to be PLA. Sometimes I half want to join but nah what's the point. I'll only join if I fail at everything elseIm not a athletic person so no. Im not getin killed! Neither am I putten up with a idiotic drill surgent who curses and yells at me all day! MIlitary got to be the last job on the list.

[Ender Wiggin]

I'm joining the Canadian Army Resevres, part time job and what not.

So if I join then can i join the VIP forum?

[KYli]

Ender_wiggin


You are joining the Canadian Army Reserves, so you could be VIP in SDF.:eek:

Oh well Golly will be please, because he get another spy for his future project to take photos for SDF.:roll:

But I think the Canadian Army will be piss off, hehe.:roll:


Just kidding.:)

[Ender Wiggin]

just wait until I recount all the crazy adventures drunken Canadians had in WWII...

an example: you have a platoon of French Canadian, American, and British commando's preparing to attack a german camp. The mission is to snipe the enemy commanders and blow up the vehicals.

They settle down for the night and will do the mission the next night, the French Canadians (from Montreal btw) are restless and can't sleep so they say "screw it" dress in black dont wake up their comrades and sneak into the enemy encampment. Suffocate the officers with pillows, steal German guns since the canadian/british ones are crap plant the C4 set a timer steal the booze and sneak back to their camp.

The C4 goes off the vehicals are destoryed and the enemy soldiers with no orders are running around crazy and some oards the allied camp.

The French Canadians are in a trench firing at the Germans with the Kar98's piss drunk and laughing.

The Americans ask them whats going on, cant understand the french and get a Brit to translate. The French Canadians speak very matter of factly, we were bored so we snuck into the enemy camp, killed the officers, stole the guns and the booze planted the c4 and came back.

The British officer couldn't stop laughing for 3 minutes and then told the American commander. The American pissed sent them home to Canada where they were given the Victoria's cross or something and were greeted as hero's.

:) :china: (pretend its a Canadian flag) :nana:

[Nethappy]

Have fun, I did my share of it and I dun think I am going to go bak to it. I lost 14kg since i quit the Aussie army and moved back to Hong Kong. I use to be 87kg.. now only 72-73kg and I am only 175 cm.

Now u know what kinda hell they put u thought. Anyway, I guess i was just like half of these kids b4 I join up (joined the reserve at a really young age 16), but the army knocked some major sense into me. I am really proud that I did my service and it really trun me into a different person.

DO u know the different between the American, British and Aussie Army?
It an old joke.

There are 3 General one from each country sitting at a table, playing poker.

Then the American said "American trooper are the best, they a fearless, come I'll show u."
American Gen "Soldier come here"
Soldier "Yes, sir"
American Gen " You see that plane over there I wanna you to jump on it and tak it to 10,000 feet and the jump off without a parachutes. You doing your country great honor son.
Soldier "Yes, sir"
The soldier did as he was told and die.

The the British said "British army is better, I'll prove it to u."
British Gen "Soldier, come here"
Soldier "Yes, sir"
British Gen " You see that tank over then and I want to step in front of it and let it run over you."
Soldier "Yes, Sir"
The solder did as he was told and die.

The Aussie said "Haha, that nothing watch this."
Aussie Gen "Digger, get over here"
Soldier "Yes, Sir"
Aussie Gen " You see that cliff over there I want to jump of it."
Soldier "Fuk you, Sir"
Aussie Gen said to the other General "see I told Aussie troop are fearless"

[netspider]

When I was at College at China, there were recruting officers from PLAAF and PLAN held some recruit events in the campus. Some of my classmates went to enroll, but only one girl got into PLAN. She went to a military academy at Guang Zhou after graduation.

[Wingman]

Does the PLAAF only allow people with natural, uncorrected 20/20 (or better) vision to become pilots, like the RCAF? Are there any air forces that allow corrected 20/20 vision pilots to fly? At 55%, China ranks 2nd in the world in myopia rate in children

[Finn McCool]

The only reason I would join the army is to get away from problems and because it is a purposefull job I would be good at. I mean whatg other job allows you to do something meaningful that is challenging to the mind while allowing you to escape all the problems of civilian life. As John Knowels put it, " To enlist. To slam the door impulsively on the past, to shed everything down to my last bit of clothing, to break from the pattern of my life-that complex design I had been weaving since birth with all its dark threads, its unexplainable symbols set a against a conventional background of domestic white and schoolboy blue, all those tangled strands that required the dexterity of a virtuoso(violin player?) to keep flowing-I yearned to take giant military scissors to it, snap! bitten off in an instant, and nothing left in my hand but spools of military khaki."

That's from A Seperate Peace, a suck-tastic novel I had to read for school.

Basically it sums up why I would enlist, to get away from the complex problems of life and replace it with the clear, simple problem of a person trying to kill you. Plus, I am pretty fit and am an ok commander/ soldier, judging from Rome Total War and Paintballing. (I've only been paintballing once, but I was pretty good at it, even though my damn gun broke.)


Another thing...Say I'm a Chinese guy who tries to join the PLA but for whatever reason can't make it. If I still wanted to fight for China (any China) coul dI go join the ROC military, or would I be rejected as a spy? I just thought that would be sort of funny.

[bd popeye]

Renmin says
Im not a athletic person so no. Im not getin killed! Neither am I putten up with a idiotic drill surgent who curses and yells at me all day! MIlitary got to be the last job on the list.

Wow..That's extremely insulting to those of us that have served in any military anywhere...Really...:(

So you think drill sargents are idiots? Why so?? You need men like that to whip yung people into shape who lack the discipline for a reallt tough job.

I was an NCO for the majority of my 20 years in the USN. Do you think I'm an idiot? Or Golly? Or Rommel?...or anyone else that served?? You need to choose your words more closely.

Nethappy..that's an old joke that is usally twisted to your favorite side. Still funny though!

Now u know what kinda hell they put u thought. Anyway, I guess i was just like half of these kids b4 I join up (joined the reserve at a really young age 16), but the army knocked some major sense into me. I am really proud that I did my service and it really trun me into a different person.


Well said!

[Nethappy]

That's from A Seperate Peace, a suck-tastic novel I had to read for school.

Basically it sums up why I would enlist, to get away from the complex problems of life and replace it with the clear, simple problem of a person trying to kill you. Plus, I am pretty fit and am an ok commander/ soldier, judging from Rome Total War and Paintballing. (I've only been paintballing once, but I was pretty good at it, even though my damn gun broke.)

I can tell u if u think Rome Total War and paintballing is like the amry, then ya dreaming. Anyway, everyone think they a fit before they enter the service, it a normal thing, but u will soon learn otherwise.

Im not a athletic person so no. Im not getin killed! Neither am I putten up with a idiotic drill surgent who curses and yells at me all day! MIlitary got to be the last job on the list.

Popeye, I know what you are trying to said, but he a kid, he state his point, he not up to the job. I personally find it ok, cos I know not everyone is up for the job. Being in any service is an enormous mentelly and physical challenge, I mean it was the frist time in my life I every felt like I rather die. But what you get out of it is very rewarding and it would stay with you for the rest of your life. Salute, too all of you would has serve his/her country.

[Gollevainen]

So you think drill sargents are idiots? Why so?? You need men like that to whip yung people into shape who lack the discipline for a reallt tough job


drill insurgets are idiots...i know, talking from experiences....but they are supposed to be jerks, otherwise the system wouldn't work:D:D But I still find it intresting that people that post in military forum are so sure that they aren't going to entlist into any kind of military service....but guess its cultural thing, thougth I cannot find any excuse of not joining in, if finnish military would be on professional basis as in other countryes.... Maybe if the sole task would have beeing a mercanary corps for EU, 24hr readyness to go on to some forgotten african state to kill local child-soldiers and other insurgents...then i would have propaply thougth it twice wheter not to join in...but luckyly that wasent the case.

[WEN?]

Im not a athletic person so no. Im not getin killed! Neither am I putten up with a idiotic drill surgent who curses and yells at me all day! MIlitary got to be the last job on the list.

well SGT's in genaral don't normally shout and curse all day at u. when our CSM is teaching new drill movements and we get them wrong he normal corrects us or the CPL's do and just makes us do lots of drill as punishment or PT's. but when we get stuff wrong that we are supposed to know, we get lots of PT's and just a few minutes of lecturing saying we should know this. they really genarally are shown as shouters for they got to shout to give the orders so we all can hear him or her. being in the military isn't that bad or anything related to it

[Wingman]

You gotta love some of those idiotic drill sargeants, some of them say really funny stuff

Here are some I heard back when I was in the cadets:

"Get off my parade square!"
"The parade square is my BABY!"

"Do not waste toilet paper! You are allowed FOUR SQUARES PER ROUND!!"
"Oh and, courtesy flushes!"

[bd popeye]

drill insurgets are idiots...i know, talking from experiences....but they are supposed to be jerks, otherwise the system wouldn't work But I still find it intresting that people that post in military forum are so sure that they aren't going to entlist into any kind of military service....

I agree 100% with my pal Golly. Jerk is a better word than idiot. If you never served..you have no clue what's it like to be in the military. None. And Boot camp(basic training)..is only about three months in most cases. That's where the "idiotic" sargents are. If you can't deal with that so be it.

Keep smilin':D :nana:

[T-U-P]

I don't think i would join PLA because im not interested in tose physical works, i'd rather sit in front of a computer making animations (guess that's why china has to have the 1 week military experience thingy for highschool kids:D)

ok, here's my question, do they allow foreigners to join? (non-chinese, those who don't hold chinese citizenship) because technically im a canadian now (got the citizenship last november), although this would mean i need to apply for the visa when going back to china, not very convient.

[swimmerXC]

I would love to join the PLA if I was still in China...
If I would join a foreign military it would be the USN (SEAL or Pilot)... the Naval Academy in Annapolis kicks butt (I was there two weeks ago during Spring break with a friend's family) or any other spec ops

[Nethappy]

Hey guy, if you call these drill sergeants Jerk, try doing they job mate. I can tell you if I was still in the army that would be the last job on my list.
They get 6-7 week get you bunch of lowlife (that what our sergeants always call us) in to shape and to make your that u become expert with all the basic skill, then they do it all over again. I can tell it really not a very fun job. You can't blame them.

Golly ya in the Artillery and Popeye ya in dat USN rite. Guy try the infantry that where most the fun is.. haha.

[Gollevainen]

Guy try the infantry that where most the fun is.. haha.

You think...During our first 5 weeks it was nothing else than basic infantry trainig, and you can gues we all hated it, we are artillery mens, we dont need to dig holes and crawl in the woods...and we were so exited to get to the real artillery training...how silly we were:rolleyes:´...after the first fireposition trainings with the D-30, we could change our mothers to be in the infantry...but thats just the real fireposition spirit, like we had this saying that a good artillery man always complains that it's too hot, its too cold, it's too rainy, in fact it's all *** up any given time;)

[Nethappy]

HAHA, well we can all complains about our job but we all love it at the same time. I won't choose any other job rather then being a infantry. During my final years of Uni I finally got in to the 1st Cdo Regt but then I quit after I finish Uni and left Australia for some personally reason. But I can tell you the training their was worst or I should said way harder. But it was fun we gotta do load of other crazy stuff e.g: Para jump, Urban Training, Demolitions.. U name it.

[Ender Wiggin]

i wouldn't mind being an liason officer if I ever managed to learn russian/chinese.

is it possible to join the PLA if Canadian or do you have to live their for several years?

[Gollevainen]

Agreed, as you may have noticed i'm extremely proud of being artilleryman.
We too had demolition training, pretty much the only other than artillery training (aside the basic infantry) that we recived...It was quite funny to watch how enthusiast the trianers were when training us...like little boys over, well TNT;) For example we had to remove this one qupic meter rock and we calculated it needed 250 g of TNT. The trianer at the demolition scene said, it only distribued in 500 g series so off we went to the explosive distributing spot and there they said they were too lazy to cut the TNT in to half, a 1 kg charge is just fine..."isen't it bit too-" we asked but they where: "Nooo, it's fine, no propelms" So there we where stuffing 1 kg bellow the little rock and we didn't remember to leave enough dirt between the TNT and the rock in order to remove the rock in intact. So you can imagine the result; Huge BANG and millions of rocksnarpels flying above us. Thank god none was hurt, but it did left us little sceptical wiew towards our trainers handeling demolition devices...

[bd popeye]

11 of my 20 years in the USN I was an Avaiation Ordanceman. We loaded air launched munitions on aircarft and were responsible for weapons magazines afloat and ashore.

I handled a lot of diffrent types of ammo and weapons from small arms to nukes. The worst accident I saw involving munitions was seeing a pallet of 500lb(226kg)bombs dropped from a height of about 5.5 feet(1.6 meters). All the bombs did was roll around. Bombs need fuses to explode. It was a scary moment. :eek: Trust me!..........

[Nethappy]

Well.. I can remenber when we frist started demolition training our our demolition training officer was treating us like 5 years old, I can still remenber him screaming out Handing it with care u f***** idots every 5 to 10 min.

[FuManChu]

where did you get that from??? last time i checked, all service man and women in the forces need to have a high school degree. airforce and navy require university level degree for many jobs. and the military academies are pumping out graduates by thousands a year. also there are many people with Msc and PhDs that's joining the R&D and officer corps

Sure, officers almost always require a good education, regardless of what country they're in. But it's quite different for the ordinary soldiers. I don't know what you need to do to get a high-school degree in China, and perhaps King was exaggerating as to the education of the ordinary ranks. Then again perhaps he is right - is there a problem in attracting clever people into the armed forces, when better jobs are available in the civilian world?

[Nethappy]

Hey look at the Aussia army and think same with most army u need to finish year 9 or 10 high school then u can join the army.

Best way to lower work unemployment in a country, send them to the army. HAHA.

[petty officer1]

I found more real offical hong kong police posters
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060425/1535/307100/307100.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060425/1535/307100/307101.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060425/1535/307100/307102.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060425/1535/307100/307103.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060425/1535/307100/307104.jpg

[petty officer1]

http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060425/1535/307100/307105.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060425/1535/307100/307106.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060425/1535/307100/307107.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060425/1535/307100/307108.jpg
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/upload/118/5168/20060425/1535/307100/307109.jpg

Those hong kong ones look really professonal.

[Finn McCool]

If I were going to join a military unit it would be the French Foreign Leigon, or maybe the US Rangers (both of which are really hard.) I don't think I ever would join the military though. I actually plan to go into the CIA, or failing that, the State Department.

Have any of our military veterans actually been in combat? I would like to ask them a bit about it. Especially if they are a pilot.

I'm not saying anything about their quality, but compared to American cops, Chinese cops look a bit...nerdy. A lot of American cops look ready to beat you like Rodney King. The scariest police though are the ones on Indian Reservations. They can get you on Indian tribal law, state law county law, probably even federal law, and rights are a bit "iffy" on Inndian Reservations. Plus, some of them don't like white people. Bottom line is don't speed, do drugs or get drunk on an Indian Reservation!

[magantosh]

oh, the pics are so nice~

but the slogan isn't good enough.

[Nethappy]

Anyway nice pic there.

The frist Hong Kong police pic post:
The 2nd and last pic are PTU unit,
the 2nd last is Airport Security Unit.
An SDU like unit responsible for providing the initial response to any terrorist incident at Chek Lap Kok International Airport and to respond to other security threats and emergency situations at the airport.
1st and 3rd are regualer police.

The 2nd Post.
1st traffic police.
2nd PTU.
3rd EU unit
last 2 are regular.

Read this it prove that SDU trained with US Navy Seal
http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/pr/200304/030415-1.htm

Here some nice SDU pic I got of the police website during lunch.
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=241&stc=1&d=1146036667
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=242&stc=1&d=1146036667
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=243&stc=1&d=1146036667
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=244&stc=1&d=1146036667
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=245&stc=1&d=1146036667

IMO it fair to compare the SDU to a company size special force military force in the CT and domestic emergency respond, especially in Urban operation and CQB.
As most SDU has a doctrine which cover a much wider role the standardize Swat style unit and is mostly head into the military role.
For example CT, the compability to launch an assault from land sea and air, and under certain situation the extermination of certain target which is a threat to national security (this is actually in there doctrine which is strange for a police unit, unless it has to handle the national security role which is normally handle by military unit).