Who are you???

[Gollevainen]

Now altouhg most of us uses the old screen name and we all know each others, new members can join in daily so how about little introduction of ourself.

I'm from Finland, i'm artillery corporal (in reserve) done my coscription in Karelian Brigade in Vekarajarvi. I'm currently studying to become constructive engineer.

[MIGleader]

greetings gollevainen. i cant post any personal info for security reasons.

what do you think of the new forum anyways?

I was migleader, the extreme commie from ezboard

I had only joined for a few days before the forum change

[Gollevainen]

greetings gollevainen. i cant post any personal info for security reasons.

what do you think of the new forum anyways?

...security reasons? anyway the new forum is quite different from the ezboard...it took me a weekend to adjust the new...but i think in the long term, this is way better than the previous...

[agent]

Already answered this on the previous forum version. But again...

I'm a university student.

Age: 20

Location: London.

Interests: Chinese affairs

[SABRE]

Hi all !

I am SABRE origionaly from www.defencetalk.com

My real name is Syed Ahmed Ali Shah, m from Pakistan. I am starting my MSc program next year in Defence & Strategic Studies from Quaid-E-Azam University, Islamabad (God Willing).

[Diving Falcon]

Hey!

I'm Diving Falcon originally from Pakistani Defence, a senior member on that board.

My personal information, I'm Bilal Khan, originally from Pakistan but raised abroad. I'm in Grade-11 in High School, but don't judge me for my age, I'm very bright and well known for a good amount of defence knowledge. I also have access to Janes Defence Weekly and Air Force Monthly.

[MIGleader]

Excellent. some pakistani members. you guys can join in alot.
in the old forum, there were endless threads discussing pakistan.
we can make this a true china-pakistan alliance.

I am a chinese born living in the east coast of the US
Ive been interested in the military since age 10.

[SABRE]

Excellent. some pakistani members. you guys can join in alot.
in the old forum, there were endless threads discussing pakistan.
we can make this a true china-pakistan alliance.


You said that right :D :cool: :p ... Pak-China alliance every where. In the field of Economics, national development & engineering, Military & now this :cool: .

You gonna see alot of Pakistanis now since SDF is in coporation with DT. We have lot of boys there.

[stonewind]

18 year old medical university student. Formerly redcastle. Interested in the land of my ancestors and its great history, culture, people and its military.

Its good to see sinodefence catching some fame. I'll check Pakistani defense too, and its great to see some diversity in the forums. Though we should keep mixing of military specs of other countries in a controlled state.

Cheers to the old sinodefence members and admins, especially eastwind for making this site. Except for vincelee :mad:

[MIGleader]

at least vince is not going to contaminate the atmosphere of the new proffesional only room.

[Liberator]

This is CN990 from the old forum...

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Greetings. This is FriedRiceNSpice from the old forum.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

I am a 16 year old junior in high school, living around Seattle, Washington.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Other than posting in sinodefence, I enjoy the pleasant activities of basketball, and.... let me think...

[BKulan]

member from old forum that rarely posted unless i had something to say.
I hope we will have a lot of new posters sharing their thoughts and opinions about the military.

I live in Sweden and study Social science.
I read a lot but sadly don't have any military experience so i guess you won't be seeing me in the professional forum, yet.

[Dongfeng]

Welcome everyone. i think I owe you guys an explaination about my ID. I was known as SinoDefence Dongfeng in the old forum. I used that name only because I couldn't register my preferred username Dongfeng. So now I have the freedom to register any username I wish since I am the second member of the forum :cool:

I also registered Dong Feng and SinoDefence Dongfeng to prevent them from being registered by others. Please do not send any private message to those IDs as I never log in with them.

Also Webmaster and I are two persons. He is the guy who kindly provided this forum and technical support for us. So don't get confused.

[T-U-P]

hey guys, im here now. and dongfeng, ignore the PMs i sent you.

i changed my name because "the ultimate punisher" is too long and the forum doesn't allow me to register :( , also it needs at least 4 characters, so "TUP" doesn't work either.

[rommel]

i didn't change my name so much, was rommel21, i removed the 21, i'm the canadian reserve infantryman.

[J T Z]

Hello, I have been coming the the site for a long time. I sometimes do read the forum and make posts here and there. But most of time due the ezboard's crappiness and myself being lazy. Now that the new forum is out i guess I will join the community.

I live in Michigan, USA. 21 years old. I am a economic and International business major. I enjoy learning military facts and read related news from around the world.

[ultrafang]

A little bit of history first, i have been intersted in millitary for a long time, i have been partispating sence the first sinodefnce forum came out which was the yahoo froum then the ezboard forum was made so i also joined, i'm also moderator at the ezboard froum, and now i joined this. I have also joined ********************* and defence talk- defence forum. But i never really posted much manly because i'm allways so busy. I'm a 19 year old that travels alot and now is living in canada!

[FriedRiceNSpice]

There was a Yahoo forum? When was that?

[Cygnus X-1]

I was '4 The Empire' in the last forum.

26
Male
UK

Education - BSc Bochemistry MSc Computer Science
Job - I.T. Contractor

I think that sums it all up ;)

[Obcession]

Obcession on EzBoard.

15, living in Canada.

Yea...

[ultrafang]

There was a Yahoo forum? When was that?
A long time ago....before the ezboard forum. The first forum that sino made.

[President]

this forum is awesome :p i am president of the world in old forum. :D

[swimmerXC]

onedream88 on the last forum!
age is 9999999999999999999999999999999 :D

[T-U-P]

why cant people just stick to their old names? now everything is so confusing.

sure you tell your old names here but i just cant remember who's who in other threads.

[Obcession]

why cant people just stick to their old names? now everything is so confusing.

sure you tell your old names here but i just cant remember who's who in other threads.


Exactly... well, guess they'll just have to rebuild their reputations...
Where's sumdud?

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Exactly... well, guess they'll just have to rebuild their reputations...

I don't! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA! Everyone knows who I was in the old forum, right?

[vincelee]

well punisher, I sure am sticking to my old name.

[BrotherofSnake]

I am American and 16.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

well punisher, I sure am sticking to my old name.

I doubt that you are the real Vince Lee.

[sumdud]

This forum is going to take your favorite mod a while to adopt to. :D
hey guys, im here now. and dongfeng, ignore the PMs i sent you.

i changed my name because "the ultimate punisher" is too long and the forum doesn't allow me to register :( , also it needs at least 4 characters, so "TUP" doesn't work either.
Damm............ And I was wondering who was TUP in the old forum and where you are............

Dongfeng, if you read this before my mail, ignore the part I mention about Punisher.........
why cant people just stick to their old names? now everything is so confusing.
Yea, I know! People, just stick with your old sns, please..........

Exactly... well, guess they'll just have to rebuild their reputations...
Where's sumdud?
Here I am. :p

And vince, you have stopped spamming...........

Anyway.

I am from San Francisco, California, United States of America!
I am 16 (yes, still in school.)
I was born in the East Coast, learned Chinese in Hong Kong,
and have bases in both Hong Kong and Guangzhou.(Root base Guangzhou)

[chinawhite]

hi im chinawhite from ATS.

im 16

living in australia.

[ger_mark]

i hope for u that u dont live in that asian ghetto in melbourne

[chinawhite]

haha.

i live in the suburbs.

ghetto in melbourne? you mean st albans/box hill?

[jack-in-the-gre]

greetings...im...well lets say i'm a some sort of gardener of this gollevainen fellow....

[ger_mark]

*****************************

[M1Tanker]

Hi. I'm Tanky and I'm baaaaaack.

I'm 31 and live in Frankfurt, Germany.

I is/was in the US Army as a tanker from 2001-2005 (Officer).

I was an engineer in the Navy from 2000-2001 (NCO).

I was in a T&E squadron in the Air Force from 1993-1997 (enlisted).

I will be moving to the National Guard in January 2006.

I miss my weekends.

Tanky

[rommel]

hey, tanky, i'd like to know, the Bradley got a crew of 3 or 4 without the infantry ??? 'Cause LAV-III (canada) and the LAV-25 got a crew of 4 and i heard the Bradely got one of 3, quite confusing...

[M1Tanker]

hey, tanky, i'd like to know, the Bradley got a crew of 3 or 4 without the infantry ??? 'Cause LAV-III (canada) and the LAV-25 got a crew of 4 and i heard the Bradely got one of 3, quite confusing...

The M2: Driver, BC, gunner, loader, plus 4ish dismounts.

The M3: Driver, BC, gunner, Loader, plus 1 dismount.

The loaders can also be dismounts.

Tanky

[x55555]

haha, i have returned. :(

[FriedRiceNSpice]

haha, i have returned. :(

Why do you have two seperate usernames? Vincelee is not banned yet, last time I checked, so why do have this one? Are you using 2 so you can double your posts? And why the sad face?

[YueTheMighty]

Hello sinodefence forum-goers. Your most intelligent, knowledgable, and productive member is back!

[ger_mark]

Hello sinodefence forum-goers. Your most intelligent, knowledgable, and productive member is back!


yes, hello Vincelee

[YueTheMighty]

yes, hello Vincelee

bullsh*t!

************

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Now I am really confused.

First there is a Vincelee that doesn't sound like Vincelee. Then comes a x55555 that does sound like Vincelee. And now people are saying that YueThePuny is Vincelee! I am very confused people, can you help me get what is going on around here?

[rommel]

i think that the vincelee is punisher, x555555 is the real vincelee and YuetheMighty is YuetheMighty...

[FriedRiceNSpice]

And I thought T U P was Punisher, x55555 is Vincelee, YueThePuny is YueThePuny, and some Vincelee was.... someone from the old forum.

[rommel]

well, u're maybe right, anyway, i'm still confuse...

[ger_mark]

dont u see the sarcasm ? :D

[FriedRiceNSpice]

dont u see the sarcasm ? :D

OIC! LOL! HAHAHA! Silly me... I had thought you were accusing Yue of being Vince. :p

[SampanViking]

Hello Boys

The Viking is here. Age 41, location Sitting Down (in Bristol UK), Occupation, Sanction Busting Chinese Textiles into E U.

Gotta go sharpen my Battleaxe :D

[x55555]

Why do you have two seperate usernames? Vincelee is not banned yet, last time I checked, so why do have this one? Are you using 2 so you can double your posts? And why the sad face?

My purpose is to register all the name vincelee has used in the old board, thus when he decides to spoil the new board, he will find it's kind of difficult to register any of his used name, which definitely will delay his arrival. :)

[ger_mark]

o yea

damn these chinese adidas,nie,puma,boss ect. fakes

[vincelee]

but I'm already here, dumb mainlander.

[ger_mark]

My purpose is to register all the name vincelee has used in the old board, thus when he decides to spoil the new board, he will find it's kind of difficult to register any of his used name, which definitely will delay his arrival. :)


good hobby for 40 age :rolleyes:

[Azn boy]

Hi, I am Azn boy same name as the old fourm. I am 14 years old and I live in Colorado. Also I've been interested in Chinese military since 1999 I got a lot of knowledge about chinese military. My carrer when I get older is to be a aerospace enginneer. So if anyone is doing aerospace can you tell me things that I should know and stuff.

[vincelee]

engineering is a bitchy job, take my advice, don't do it unless you REALLY want to.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

My purpose is to register all the name vincelee has used in the old board, thus when he decides to spoil the new board, he will find it's kind of difficult to register any of his used name, which definitely will delay his arrival. :)

So who are you in the first place? Sumdud? Gollavanein?

but I'm already here, dumb mainlander.

How do you know he is mainland Chinese, dumb islander? He could be Finnish or American or Swedish!

[MIGleader]

vince lee = some one knoledgeable, not the old guy...

So who is he???

[Azn boy]

If I work for Lockheed and I get fired can I go to china and work for one of there company and help them design military jets?

[MIGleader]

if you can speak mandarin. i heard on another thread you speak cantonese.
but if you design the j-16 that takes down f-22 and jsf, we will all cheer you on!

[FriedRiceNSpice]

If I work for Lockheed and I get fired can I go to china and work for one of there company and help them design military jets?

You could, provided that you are fired and that you didn't just quit the job on your own accord. If you had quit, then that would be a different matter.

[Obcession]

Well, Vince did say "you dumb mainlander" which means he is probably from Taiwan and he still has a stereotype about mainland, which means he's probably vince's friend or something.

[MIGleader]

steal some Us designs while at lockeed...give it to china.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Well, Vince did say "you dumb mainlander" which means he is probably from Taiwan and he still has a stereotype about mainland, which means he's probably vince's friend or something.

Or maybe Vince just decided to use a different approach. Instead of talking in short, sentence fragments and using primitive vocabulary, he figured that we might take him more seriously if he sounded more professional.

[MIGleader]

that is nothing compared to what he normally would say. this cant be the same guy...

[vincelee]

or perhaps I used the "dumb mainlander" to bring myself back to....character.

VINCELEE IS BACK AND IS HERE TO STAY!

[FriedRiceNSpice]

or perhaps I used the "dumb mainlander" to bring myself back to....character.

VINCELEE IS BACK AND IS HERE TO STAY!

WE DONT WANT YOU HERE AND YOU KNOW! So go away and leave us alone Vince. And don't come back!

[T-U-P]

don't be naive, Fried

he's not gonna leave just because you asked him to. if he ever gets over the line, webmaster would be the first to ban him since he's more strict than Dongfeng.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

don't be naive, Fried

he's not gonna leave just because you asked him to. if he ever gets over the line, webmaster would be the first to ban him since he's more strict than Dongfeng.

You are right, punisher. Actually, to tell you the truth, Vince has been rather pleasant these past two days. Not a single anti-China, pro-Taiwan, pro-Japan, or pro-US post from here. Every one of his posts have been about the military and not on politics. And he's been sounding professional and rational.

[swimmerXC]

don't be naive, Fried

he's not gonna leave just because you asked him to. if he ever gets over the line, webmaster would be the first to ban him since he's more strict than Dongfeng.

Don't worry if the Nazi Commie stuff starts coming Webby will ban him... I'm in his other forum and lets just say...it's strict and no BS :cool:

[Cygnus X-1]

How do you know he is mainland Chinese, dumb islander? He could be Finnish or American or Swedish!

Didn't Azn boy say he lived in Colorado???

[Azn boy]

if you can speak mandarin. i heard on another thread you speak cantonese.
but if you design the j-16 that takes down f-22 and jsf, we will all cheer you on!
:) hehe yea I do speak cantonese but I can't speak fluently? :( Does people in china learn english is it required to learn it?

[Azn boy]

if you can speak mandarin. i heard on another thread you speak cantonese.
but if you design the j-16 that takes down f-22 and jsf, we will all cheer you on!
:) hehe yea I do speak cantonese but I can't speak it fluently? :( Does people in china learn english is it required to learn it?

And yes Cygnus X-1 I do live in Colorado. Do you live in Colorado its in the U.S.

[T-U-P]

Does people in china learn english is it required to learn it?
yes, english is a requirement in the schools in china now (at least in big cities), it became more important after the decision on holding the 2008 olympics.

[Azn boy]

So it might be ok if I don't speak fluent cantonese and still work for Chengdu something like that?

[swimmerXC]

Chengdu WHY Chengdu, when you got Boeing and Lockheed Martin a couple of states away from you....
Just work for them and sell your secrets to China if you really wanted to....

[FriedRiceNSpice]

The M3: Driver, BC, gunner, Loader, plus 1 dismount.

Does one dismount mean that there is only one infantry soldier that can come out of the Bradely to fight? That seems rather inefficient.

[sumdud]

Hello sinodefence forum-goers. Your most intelligent, knowledgable, and productive member is back!
:x :x :x

And who the heck is vince and x55555(You put in an extra 5 if you didn't notice!!!!!!!)
Reveal yourself or forever be gone!!!! :evil
I will ban you! :mad: O dam..... I can't ban anyone.
Dude, seriously, who is out there taking vince's name?

China is now teaching English in schools.
Too bad there are no major airplane labs or factories in Guangdong. :(

And uh, Azn boy, watch out! I have a design that is ready for build!

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Dude, seriously, who is out there taking vince's name?

X55555 admitted that he is not Vince:



My purpose is to register all the name vincelee has used in the old board, thus when he decides to spoil the new board, he will find it's kind of difficult to register any of his used name, which definitely will delay his arrival.

And I am not sure if Vincelee is really Vince or not. He doesn't sound like Vince.

[PiSigma]

age 20,
male
computer process control chem. engineering 2nd year student at University of Alberta

ya, engineering is pretty crappy. that's why all engineers love alcohol, and caffeine.

azn boy, if you speak cantonese, it's basically only good in LOCAL INFORMAL setting in the the province of guangdong. if it's a formal setting, everyone would be speaking mandarin, and no one understands it outside of guangdong. in chengdu, they have a sichuan dialect that's very easy to understand if you know mandarin. the idea is to learn mandarin, because it's the national language, and is used by everyone in china, cantonese is used by a small number of people.

[M1Tanker]

Does one dismount mean that there is only one infantry soldier that can come out of the Bradely to fight? That seems rather inefficient.

The M3 really isn't tasked to be an IFV. The one dismount is a scout. The rest of the room in the back where the Infantry sits is taken up with radios and TOW racks.

Tanky

[President]

So it might be ok if I don't speak fluent cantonese and still work for Chengdu something like that?
dont worry Anz boy. if Uncle Sam dont want you, We want you. but the condition is you must have significant achievement and have real professional skills on your area. Chengdu will assign a translator for you same as russian experts in China, so the language doest matter. the real matter thing is your professional knowledge. As a chinese, i really glad to see young chinese boy like you have such willings. ;)

BTW, in china, we learn english as a second language from junior school, but our english still very trash. take me for example, i started learn english from 12 years old, now it already has being learning 12 years incluede 3 years in a english speaking country. just look at bad my grammer and simple words i am using, much worse than primary school native pupil :mad:

[President]

oh, i forget, anz boy. you are at right age to learn chinese. ;) if u want any help with chinese, i will try my best using my rubbish english to help. :D

[President]

:x :x :x
Too bad there are no major airplane labs or factories in Guangdong. :(

And uh, Azn boy, watch out! I have a design that is ready for build!

chinese airplane labs is based at research institute in several aerospace universities. i think chendu is just a head-quater for cordinate its sub factories established some where else.

[chinawhite]

ger_mark what did you say about a ghetto in melbourne.

i live in the suburbs. not going to tell you the area but close to berwick/narre warren.

this is Victorias best residential area. the only ghettos you will find are dandenong and areas where europeans live. those areas a filled bogons. and i guess you must be one of them.

[MIGleader]

ive seen alot of adults in china able to speak poor english, not too different from my parents. its called Chinglish LOL. but i dont think a aircraft corp. will use english as a prime language. so azn boy, work on your mandarin.

[Gollevainen]

engineering is a bitchy job, take my advice, don't do it unless you REALLY want to.

no, no do like i have done just ramble on...engineering is great fun if you are NOT interested in anyways of math and physics... :cool:

and for the identity of Vincelee...he's just somebody from the old forum having laugh at your expence...now if you think very hard you will figured it out who he really is, like i have...just think who hasen't been registerd (or at least posted) of our old active members?????????

[MIGleader]

Red legionare?

British boi?

wingman?

who knows. this guy seems pretty knoledgeable.

[Gollevainen]

British boi?

.

Trust me i know britboi and he did'nt know shit about military field, even the orginal vince had more knowlidge than he did...but think harder, it's someone more familiar than you mentioned...

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Why do you want to work for Chendu, azn boy? Shenyang has a much better future, considering that Shenyang is the one in charge of J-XX.

[crazyinsane105]

Hi. I am crazyinsane105 and I am 18 (going to be 19 this September) and I am currently studying at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign as a mechanical engineering student (I am a freshman by the way). I am probably going to switch over to eletrical engineering next semester. Also, my hometown is Chicago.

By the way, within two weeks there is going to be a massive function at my university. Over 300 companies will come to offer jobs and internships. My hope is that the defense companies will offer me an internship since my knowledge about defense is quite good (when compared to the average person). Wish me luck.

[Gollevainen]

Hi. I am crazyinsane105 and I am 18 (going to be 19 this September) and I am currently studying at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign as a mechanical engineering student (I am a freshman by the way). I am probably going to switch over to eletrical engineering next semester. Also, my hometown is Chicago.

By the way, within two weeks there is going to be a massive function at my university. Over 300 companies will come to offer jobs and internships. My hope is that the defense companies will offer me an internship since my knowledge about defense is quite good (when compared to the average person). Wish me luck.


good luck....
so you can swich your main degree in there??? Our system is bit queerer as only in "real" universityes you can do so...The place where i study...University of applied sciences at Hame...just learned the proper english term...well anyway we are sticked to the mainsubject, if you want to change it you have to go thru the application prosess all over again...

[Neko]

I am Neko, the lurker from the previous board.

Sailor, otaku, collector, etc.

[MIGleader]

gollevainen, are you saying you know the guy thats posing as vincelee?

[Azn boy]

yea Fried of Rice I was using Chengdu as an example. And I tried to learn mandrain but it was too hard. So I am trying to learn mandrain in colleage. :D Sumdud hehe I might design it. :) Also crazyinsane my dad got a bachlor degree for electical enginerring and my brother is in college right now at CU learning Electical enginergging. And president it's ok english is my second language too.

[Azn boy]

Chengdu WHY Chengdu, when you got Boeing and Lockheed Martin a couple of states away from you....
Just work for them and sell your secrets to China if you really wanted to....
yea there is lockheed place in colorado i think. Why Chendu or shenyang because maybe when i get the education and stuff how to design stealthy planes etc. then I can help china's company to design a jet. But can I just quit and go to china would the us track me down and send like FBI after me? :eek: Isn't that illegal to help a china company if you were born in the us?

[President]

yea there is lockheed place in colorado i think. Why Chendu or shenyang because maybe when i get the education and stuff how to design stealthy planes etc. then I can help china's company to design a jet. But can I just quit and go to china would the us track me down and send like FBI after me? :eek: Isn't that illegal to help a china company if you were born in the us?
nothing can stop you, the founder of chinese nukes is also from U.S. you have freedom and right to work for any company on the earth, but just dont steal their technology, intead work on your own, we gonna make best aircraft, best car best space shuttle, best computers, highest speed train, tallest skyscraper, and best fried rice as well. all best of best. BTW ShenYang is more bureaucrat but well equiped than ChengDu. :D

[MIGleader]

nothing is illegal if you don't get caught. i doubt the US will actually send the cia after ou in china. if you have valuable US info, the chinese government will protect you.

[Endymion]

yea there is lockheed place in colorado i think. Why Chendu or shenyang because maybe when i get the education and stuff how to design stealthy planes etc. then I can help china's company to design a jet. But can I just quit and go to china would the us track me down and send like FBI after me? :eek: Isn't that illegal to help a china company if you were born in the us?

Stop watching so many movies

[sumdud]

no, no do like i have done just ramble on...engineering is great fun if you are NOT interested in anyways of math and physics... :cool:

and for the identity of Vincelee...he's just somebody from the old forum having laugh at your expence...now if you think very hard you will figured it out who he really is, like i have...just think who hasen't been registerd (or at least posted) of our old active members?????????
O.....just tell us......
I am Neko, the lurker from the previous board.

Sailor, otaku, collector, etc.
Sailor?!

And to Azn boy, how many % of your design is complete?

[FriedRiceNSpice]

And to Azn boy, how many % of your design is complete?

Do you seriously think a 14-year boy can design a complete fighter plane....

[phillywop]

I am Phillywop. I live near Washington, DC which gives me a ringside seat to the circus called American politics.

[Azn boy]

Sumdud I got 0% of my design done also I am only 14. So if you guys want me to give informatiom about us airplanes and stuff talk to me in like 8 when i graduate college and 9 I need to see if i can work for lockheed or boeing and stuff.

[BrotherofSnake]

yea there is lockheed place in colorado i think. Why Chendu or shenyang because maybe when i get the education and stuff how to design stealthy planes etc. then I can help china's company to design a jet. But can I just quit and go to china would the us track me down and send like FBI after me? Isn't that illegal to help a china company if you were born in the us?

Why would you want to betray your country in the first place?

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Why would you want to betray your country in the first place?

China is his country. He will never betray China!

[BrotherofSnake]

If he is born in the US that would make his nationality American.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

If he is born in the US that would make his nationality American.

His ethnicity is still Chinese. To me, ethnicity is much more important than nationality. Ethnicity is who you are. Nationality is just where you're from.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

But it means that if he is caught, the crime will be treason, not espionage. Treason is punishable by death. Well, then again so is espionage. :-/

[BrotherofSnake]

His ethnicity is still Chinese. To me, ethnicity is much more important than nationality. Ethnicity is who you are. Nationality is just where you're from.

My ethnicity is Chinese, but I am fiercely loyal to my country America. To me nationality is much more important.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

My ethnicity is Chinese, but I am fiercely loyal to my country America. To me nationality is much more important.

Are you really Chinese? 100%? If you are, then I can only feel sorry for you. And pity you. You should be proud of your Chinese heiritage! America, in its 220 years of existence cannot compare to our great civilization of 5,000 years!

[BrotherofSnake]

I am 100 percent Chinese. I am proud of my heritage, but I am still loyal to my country.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

I am 100 percent Chinese. I am proud of my heritage, but I am still loyal to my country.

Well, I guess being proud is worth something. But you should feel the need to dedicate your life to building and improving that 5000 year civilization.

[BrotherofSnake]

Fried are u an ABC?

[MIGleader]

Personal attack is strictly forbidden in the forum. Your post has therefore been deleted. Dongfeng.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

Fried are u an ABC?

No, I was born in Beijing, but I have lived in the US for 12 years. Even if I was born in US, I will still feel more loyal to China, because I will be Chinese, not American.

[BrotherofSnake]

I am not a traitor.

[T-U-P]

Well, I guess being proud is worth something. But you should feel the need to dedicate your life to building and improving that 5000 year civilization.
lol Fried, you can stop trying to convert him. he can believe in what he believes.

what does ABC stand for btw?

[BrotherofSnake]

No, I was born in Beijing, but I have lived in the US for 12 years. Even if I was born in US, I will still feel more loyal to China, because I will be Chinese, not American.

Well I am American.

what does ABC stand for btw?

American Born Chinese

[President]

stop blame on BrotherofSnake, every one has right to choose what he dedicate for, everyone is not born to slavery for any countries. every ABC has been imprint with chinese since your born. the difference between your ABC's mind is that how much you have been inserted and intergrate with your inherent chinese culture, if u r above 50% believe to your inherent chinese culture, then you are loyal to your ethics, if u less 50%, then you will loyal to nationality. it really doesnt matter how nationalistic you are. :D

[sumdud]

I am not a traitor.
No one is.



All people can choose which nation he belongs to. It is freedom.
So it's pointless. And none of this converting either. This is about the military and sometimes politics, not religion!

He can stay and choose America and you can stay and choose China, Vise versa.

In fact, the world has now do more with politics than ethnics.......

Living in one place does not mean anything.

[BKulan]

i agree with sumdud

though most people haven't really thought about this and just believe in what they're told, along with the strong meaning of the word traitor.

among the things politicians are teached to say when studying rhetorics and neural linguistics is the usefullness of words with strong and often emotional meaning (Traitor, Corrupt, Terrorist, Nazi, Coward, Commie, Radical and so on)
when talking about their opponent.

[Shanghai]

25-30 milions Chinese are living outside of China .... and i m 1 from 25-30 milions...

[MIGleader]

I am not a traitor.

alright, but just be careful not to fall the u.s's media and propaganda on how great and secure thge nation is, because things change.

[BrotherofSnake]

I love the red, white and blue. :D

[chinawhite]

30million. its more like 52million

[BrotherofSnake]

Are they mostly concentrated in south eastern Asian countries?

[MIGleader]

I love the red, white and blue. :D

thr french, russians, and slovenians and many other countries have red, white and blue. its not such a unique design of color.

[BrotherofSnake]

lol, I meant America.

[T-U-P]

thr french, russians, and slovenians and many other countries have red, white and blue. its not such a unique design of color.
UK has that colour as well.

[BrotherofSnake]

thr french, russians, and slovenians and many other countries have red, white and blue. its not such a unique design of color.

Fine, I love America. :D

[RavenWing278]

Im 16, student at RBHS sydney Australia
i only recently joined this military forum and use to be on defencetalk.com with the same name i got now...

[lazzydigger]

LazzyDigger here:

Me name is John. Chinese origin, lives in Sydney. I have been a infantryman in Australian army reserve. A fan of weapon systems. Me age?.. I will be a father this year, so I will be an old fart in this forum. Hats of to bd popeye, you probably are the most senior person in this forum.

That all folks. :)

[Lavi]

I'm from Finland, studying at the moment, has been interested in defence for along time. Aviation is my main interest, with the navy as a good number two.

[Gollevainen]

Tervetuloa lavi...God, is finland being the most presented little nation in here? ;)

...but seriously, what are you studing?

[Lavi]

I'm in an english 'lukio', upper secondary school.

[Gollevainen]

jaa että englannin kielisessä lukiossa...But as this is international forum, lets keep it english so that no misunderstundings occurs, althoug it feels silly to discuss to another fin in english...or bad english as in my case ;)

[T-U-P]

althoug it feels silly to discuss to another fin in english
lol, we chinese discuss in english rather than chinese, and it doesn't feel weird...maybe that's because im used to it...

[PiSigma]

我们也可以用中文说！！ i'm pretty good with typing in chinese, and there are a lot of people here that can read it. but then again, i grew up in canada, so my english is better than chinese, that goes for writing too.

[rommel]

c'est vraiment dommage, je crois qu'il y a personne ou presque qui parle francais ici... I'm a french-canadian, my french is better than my english... S'il y a un francais ou un quebecois ou un francophone, signalez-vous !!!!

[T-U-P]

我们也可以用中文说！！
lol, 是用google翻译了吧 :D

anyway, i just sucks at typing chinese (but im worse at writing), i'm perfectly good with saying/listening.

[PiSigma]

i had to use chinese at home, and also took chinese classes when i was a kid, so i still remember most of my chinese. took french from grades 3-7 thanks to the canadian education system. french is so much harder than english with all the grammar.. argh.. forgot everything about it right after it finished.

[President]

i feel shame when i was talking with chinese ppl in english, because my english is worsen than everyone here on the forum.:o but other non-chinese guys cant understand if we talk in chinese, so for good sake,we better talk in english as possible as we can . :p if its really necessary to talk in mother languages, then better translate it for others as you can. ;) :D

[Gollevainen]

well it would be pretty destructive to the site if we finn miniority would only chat whit our own languages, all knowing chinese using chinese and rest of the members would have to cope whit the sole english that they know...

[Aznsilvrboy]

Aznsilvrboy on the old ez board forum.

Age: 16 in 2.5 months

gr11 student in Canada

Taiwanese.

[bd popeye]

i feel shame when i was talking with chinese ppl in english, because my english is worsen than everyone here on the forum.:o but other non-chinese guys cant understand if we talk in chinese, so for good sake,we better talk in english as possible as we can . :p if its really necessary to talk in mother languages, then better translate it for others as you can. ;) :D

President..I for one do not have a problem reading post written in good or bad english. Most time with a little paticence and careful reading I can understand. You just keep posting in English as best you can.

[MIGleader]

Aznsilvrboy on the old ez board forum.

Age: 16 in 2.5 months

gr11 student in Canada

Taiwanese.

i thought you said you were 14 in the old forum...

[Red Guard]

so long....11 pages.
i am Red Guard, as the red guards in the cultural revolution, which my father used to be, i always use this ID on english forum, which i don't go to very often.
my english name is Aleskandr Rakowski, for some reason, i'd not speak of my chinese name. i am a chinese canadian, i came to canada when i was 14. which was 6 years ago, being trying to get into reserves ever since.....
i am an engineering student in an University in ontario. I regularly go to chinese military forum for the last 6 years and i am an senior CEO in www.cjdby.net/index.asp, as you guys can see some of the pictures, mostly naval photos are orginally from my forum. it's nice to be in this forum and talk about my country's weaponary and army with a bunch of whiteman who i used to think won't give a XXXX about chinese stuff. :D

[sumdud]

Interesting.....

May I ask, how did you receive the surname Rakowski?

[Red Guard]

are you really interested? i just thought everyone else got a boring english name is not cool, like we have so many jacks, bobs, in our school, so i decided to get myself a Russian name, as Alexander was spelt Aleksandr, and Rakowski, well..........you see....i met a girl......who......you can guess the rest of the story.

[Gollevainen]

i am an engineering student in an University in ontario.

again another one...:cool:

[PiSigma]

let's creat a engineering thread, so we can all share our engineering spirit.

[Jones Henry]

Now altouhg most of us uses the old screen name and we all know each others, new members can join in daily so how about little introduction of ourself.

I'm from Finland, i'm artillery corporal (in reserve) done my coscription in Karelian Brigade in Vekarajarvi. I'm currently studying to become constructive engineer.

Im an unemployed 23-years old African man now living in the Finish city Turku, but hoping to get a job as an "automaatio asentaja"(dont know what that is in english:( )

[Gollevainen]

Of the all finnish cityes, why you picked up Turku?

let's creat a engineering thread, so we can all share our engineering spirit.

so we would have to talk about boring technical stuff?:rolleyes: ?

[sumdud]

Engineering.....
Ai!

I would agree to an engineering thread in the off topic forum.
(Yes, I want to become an engineer in the the future, too :D )

[The_Zergling]

Huh, finally noticed this thread.

My actual name is Steven Chen. I live in Taiwan right now, though I'm going to the US in the near future, to major in political science at the University of Michigan. I'm 18 years old, and a US citizen.

Used the name The_Zergling because I was tired of my old one.

Hello to everyone...

[Aznsilvrboy]

i thought you said you were 14 in the old forum...

I dont remember saying that, if I did mention something about my age...it would be 15...

[rob_net]

Male
Mexico

Education - Engineer in Navy Construction with a degree in Project Manager & degree in Computer Science

I think that sums it all up

[adeptitus]

Tervetuloa lavi...God, is finland being the most presented little nation in here? ;)


=P Back in early 1990's I considered doing the exchange student thing at University of Jyvaskyla. But my Finnish friends there convinced me that there's more good looking women on my end (California).

[T-U-P]

My actual name is Steven Chen.
i have a friend who's name is steven chen(but he's in vancouver) :D

Male
Mexico

so you speak spanish? can you teach me?

anyway, welcome.

[rob_net]

so you speak spanish? can you teach me?

anyway, welcome.

claro amigo / sure men (some times my english sucks, sorry)

rob

[MIGleader]

Male
Mexico

Education - Engineer in Navy Construction with a degree in Project Manager & degree in Computer Science

I think that sums it all up

now i cant do any of my mexican jokes...(they werent offensive)

[rommel]

well, the problem is not your joke, the problem is 18 inch behind the computer screen.

[JZXT]

Chinese living in US.
Male
30

Eduaction: Mechanical Engineering, MBA, currently looking at a law degree program.

Vincelee......

engineering is a bitchy job, take my advice, don't do it unless you REALLY want to.

I thought you are still in U of M studying and have not even graduated yet.
So what engineering job?

[adeptitus]

Take it from someone who spent more than a decade in cubicals slaving away for corporate America.

Working for yourself may be harder, but it's a lot more rewarding than working for someone else. Read the book "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" by Robert Kiyosaki:
http://www.richdad.com/

[Knarfo]

Chemical engineer

interests: general history, cars, aviation, military stuff, cultures etc

Military service: Smelly cannon fodder at Uusimaa Brigade(green at heart), nowadays humbled by reassignment to a red tech support company :(
;)
:D :D

[Gollevainen]

As for now onwards, until we change things...if we changes, who knows:confused: ...anyway, as for now onwards this thread can be found here so everybody has the capability to see who we are. I also opened a new thread for new members, so they dont have to post here as well

[jalen911]

hey
i am new guy to this forum !

[swimmerXC]

Hi welcome to SDF, go introduce yourself here
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?t=845&page=8

[bd popeye]

Hi dude! What happening in Shanghai? Hey how about taking your camera over to Dalian shipyard and taking some pictures?? Espeically of the aircraft carrier over there...Is dat cool with you? Peace out!

Just kidding. But it sure would be keen if you ..naw never mind. I don't want you to be accousted by the PAP....

Oh by the way welcome to our forum! Be sure you read the rules!

[pshamim]

Hi,
I am Pshamim from Los Angeles. Long time ago, I flew F-86 Sabres for Air Force. I am a Defence Industry Professional and worked for the like of Merex Corporation and General Dynamics. I worked on the F-16 Peacegate program and helped set up the F-16 induction program on behalf of G.D. for Pakistan Air Force.


Needless to say, I am quite old.

[Gollevainen]

Well hello...

Good to have such an expereince member...would you give bit longer introduction to our "Boss", Dongfeng via PM and he can make you as a vip member.

...but these two different introduction threads are quite useless so this older thread is now closed...please introduce yourselves now onwards in the Member's club room. Thanks.