PLA Missile Thread 2 (Pictures)

[swimmerXC]

R-77, ..., PL-6, ..., ...
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8609/r77412069lb.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9820/ouch124066pg.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9871/pl6412062xq.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7753/155411064jb.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9512/bunch412067va.jpg

[swimmerXC]

..., all those chinese?
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6320/df416068dv.jpg
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2243/hj416066lk.jpg

[swimmerXC]

YJ-83?, SD-10
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/1369/yj83417061ko.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/3296/sd10322062tf.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4530/sd1032206a5fi.jpg

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http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1173/dk418065bc.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/966/dk42106b7dr.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/863/dk42106a1ji.jpg
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/8827/dk421068hl.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1104/df421064ei.jpg
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/2609/df42106a1vu.jpg

[swimmerXC]

AAM, Whats that on the 52B?
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/7375/aam423066bf.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4764/aam42306a6xw.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8775/hq7419061ml.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8606/052b423068yn.jpg

[swimmerXC]

C-803?
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7265/cctv421069xu.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9046/cctv42106a1sq.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1319/cctv42106b3ib.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4098/cctv42106c3fx.jpg

[Twix101]

AAM, Whats that on the 52B?
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8775/hq7419061ml.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8606/052b423068yn.jpg

The first picture shows a HQ-7 and the second is surely a 9M38 (SA-N-12) Grizzly Missile (Russian Made).

[swimmerXC]

Cruise Missile Models
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8591/cruise427063hx.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9016/cruise429061hc.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7058/cruise42906a1bh.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7292/cruise42906b8ne.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1161/big429062xy.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1236/c803504062fg.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8508/c701502062sk.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7127/c801502062nb.jpg

[kooe]

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1161/big429062xy.jpg
what is that????

[SteelBird]

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1161/big429062xy.jpg
what is that????

It looks like an anti-ship missile, quite similar to sun-burn. is it a real missile or just a mock up?

[swimmerXC]

DF-15
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6175/df15508063fb.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/17/df1550806b4vs.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6079/df1550806d2hg.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5032/df1550806e7ll.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1305/df1550806c1dm.jpg

[swimmerXC]

New Version of DF-15, ...
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8366/df1550906b6qd.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2195/df1550906a9lu.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7656/broken510062fk.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/8063/df5513066ic.jpg
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/6695/toy513064nt.jpg

[swimmerXC]

..., HQ-9?!??!? (They say this is a Chinese factory for "Red Flag" missiles)
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6727/hy518066qg.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1433/hq9518062gy.jpg

[swimmerXC]

AAM, TAKE TAIWAN WITH OUR MISSILES, Cruise missile
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/456/aan521062ho.jpg
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9233/toy513063cg.jpg
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/4663/mag520064hy.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1008/warhead522065bz.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4050/df522065ms.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/696/df521063cd.jpg

[swimmerXC]

YJ-83, DF-31?
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7092/yj83524068gu.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/261/df525065sx.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1716/helo529068ie.jpg
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/8540/old529065cx.jpg

[tphuang]

S-300 pictures in China - first public display of that.

[tphuang]

more S-300 pictures, I think this is just the snapshots taken from the CCTV broadcast. I wonder when they will do the same for J-10? hehe, I guess another 5 years from now?

[swimmerXC]

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http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5690/df530060bh.jpg
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/6361/df15513063ly.jpg

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http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9060/hq9604060qv.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9493/tanks524063ip.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8263/df553106a1xo.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6170/silo508065ks.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2693/df5607062do.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3530/range609067lc.gif
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5448/nuke321066fn.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/849/nuke32106a2lo.jpg
http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/6383/nuke32106b6gj.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5663/moa615061sf.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8545/medals615068gz.jpg
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/6563/medals61506a0nc.jpg

[swimmerXC]

DF-31.... DF-11...
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/7458/df31618065ui.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/907/df3161806a1ss.jpg
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9353/df3161806c2oy.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5011/df3161806d9ug.jpg
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9058/df11618068rc.gif

[Roger604]

Never seen this before...... "double barreled" DF-11 launcher

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1937/134255372006062410523565679300.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5729/134255372006062410523579806500.jpg

[jwangyue]

Never seen this before...... "double barreled" DF-11 launcher

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1937/134255372006062410523565679300.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5729/134255372006062410523579806500.jpg

It is not a double barreled launcher. The caption read, DF-11 missile transporting truck, holding 2 missiles.

This is a missile transport truck, not sure if it can directly resupply an TEL vehcile though.

[swimmerXC]

That's a pretty old pic, it's just showing the new version of DF-11 that PLA has
S-300
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3771/cctv623069ua.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/109/cctv62306a5lu.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5764/cctv62306b7ja.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7117/cctv62306c2pe.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2639/cctv62306d9pl.jpg

[swimmerXC]

Recent missile drills
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3621/df11620066kv.jpg
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8863/cctv626068zc.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6844/df2615063ou.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5425/cctv625066xa.jpg

[swimmerXC]

What is this... space related?
http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/7365/spac625064ux.jpg
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/1073/tile625060ba.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tiles625062cj.jpg

[jwangyue]

What is this... space related?
http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/7365/spac625064ux.jpg
http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/1073/tile625060ba.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tiles625062cj.jpg

Si3N4 Silicon Nitrite ceremic armor. Used for armored vhecile protection layer.

At least that is what that translate inot.

[swimmerXC]

Si3N4 Silicon Nitrite ceremic armor. Used for armored vhecile protection layer.

At least that is what that translate inot.

Thanks, I didn't know what it meant by ball proof
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4115/aam619060qj.jpg

[Bueller]

AAM, TAKE TAIWAN WITH OUR MISSILES, Cruise missile

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/456/aan521062ho.jpg

What kind of aircraft is that? That wing is way too low to be JH-7 or any member of the Flanker family. It seems even lower than the FC-1. For the life of me, I can't think of anything else in the PLA inventory that would have a wing tip launch rail. And that uniform is from at the latest early 80s. Furthermore, those missiles are early production PL-2s. I don't know how long the PLA kept the original PL-2s around, but this picture could very well have been taken back in the mid 70s or earlier. I also looked up the old J-12, but it doesn't look like it had any tip rail. Any thoughts?

[swimmerXC]

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/456/aan521062ho.jpg

What kind of aircraft is that? That wing is way too low to be JH-7 or any member of the Flanker family. It seems even lower than the FC-1. For the life of me, I can't think of anything else in the PLA inventory that would have a wing tip launch rail. And that uniform is from at the latest early 80s. Furthermore, those missiles are early production PL-2s. I don't know how long the PLA kept the original PL-2s around, but this picture could very well have been taken back in the mid 70s or earlier. I also looked up the old J-12, but it doesn't look like it had any tip rail. Any thoughts?

I think the answer to your question lies in the background... you see that plane? I think it's probably a trainer JJ-5? :confused:

[Bueller]

I think the answer to your question lies in the background... you see that plane? I think it's probably a trainer JJ-5? :confused:

It actually looks more like a JJ-6, but that's neither here nor there since, AFAIK, J/J-5/6 have no wing tip launch rail.

[adeptitus]

Maybe a J-13 prototype or mock-up?
http://www.china-defense.com/aviation/chinese_fighter_development/chinese_fighter_development-6.html

The cancelled J-12 didn't have wing-tip pylons:
http://hawkseye.bravepages.com/china/cam/01.htm

[swimmerXC]

Maybe a J-13 prototype or mock-up?
http://www.china-defense.com/aviation/chinese_fighter_development/chinese_fighter_development-6.html

The cancelled J-12 didn't have wing-tip pylons:
http://hawkseye.bravepages.com/china/cam/01.htm

Cancelled J-12 probably, is this it prototype 02?
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8239/02220066io.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7956/report703063hl.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3725/report70306a8fx.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/23/report70306b7zr.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5602/report70306c9kf.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1982/report70306d1ik.jpg

[Bueller]

Cancelled J-12 probably, is this it prototype 02?

Nope. I ruled that out very early on since the J-12 seemed to fit the bill otherwise. But no wing tip rail. Unless they had a double secret probation, I mean prototype that had one.

Maybe a J-13 prototype or mock-up?

This plane would most defintely have to have low wing configuration. Otherwise, those are some very very tall Chinese loading the PL-2. ;)

btw, thanks for the J-12 picture. Clearly no wing tip launch rail.

[swimmerXC]

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http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9162/missile70304e7fh.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8584/missile70304d0dr.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1416/missile70304f9ge.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4323/missile70304g9vs.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1674/missile70304h2aj.jpg

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http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3503/df31704067sz.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7209/df31710068zq.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4959/df21703064kl.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/475/df21710065ng.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8957/df2171006a3hq.jpg

[swimmerXC]

Big man with KS-1, SS-N-22
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1961/ks1711069kr.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5090/ssn22711060kn.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/397/missile70304xs2.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4171/missile70304afv8.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9186/missile70304bbt3.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/620/missile70304cog7.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/7586/aam72506ll9.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2072/yj8372006vl6.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8485/c80272706dm4.jpg

[swimmerXC]

ANYONE CARE TO GUESS?
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6137/c60280106zc9.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7618/c60280106alp8.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1659/c60280106bew5.jpg

[Gollevainen]

Well at least the seccond pic is fake...I don't remember there been those cannisters when the pic first got released...

[googeler]

Just found a close-up picture of the PL-12 here: http://pic.top81.cn/show_image.asp?id=11593
What are the brown bands highlighted in red? Proximity fuse sensors?

[adeptitus]

Just found a close-up picture of the PL-12 here: http://pic.top81.cn/show_image.asp?id=11593
What are the brown bands highlighted in red? Proximity fuse sensors?

I've never seen anything like that on a missile before. Perhaps it's testing equipemnt? Is that missile being carried by a J-8 test-bed?

[googeler]

I've never seen anything like that on a missile before

I have. The green band on the side of the R-60 body in the attached pic is a proximity fuse sensor (sorry for the off topic picture)

[swimmerXC]

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http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2707/old80706wj3.jpg
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4071/jl181106yk6.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4386/srbm81306ei7.jpg

[swimmerXC]

Ly-90, TOR, YJ-8X, YJ-83
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6780/ly9090706cea8.jpg
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8273/tor42706bkg0.jpg
http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/1448/yj8372006oz8.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6268/yj8390606bbf6.jpg
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8257/yj8390606fhj5.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3278/yj8390606cba0.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9258/yj8390606dek9.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8260/yj8390606exv7.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/310/yj8390606gms8.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/473/yj8390606hxa8.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7043/yj8390606ijo0.jpg
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/42/yj8390606jwt4.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4206/yj8390606kfc9.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7186/yj8390606lms8.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2590/yj8390606mgw6.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8120/cruise91106eg5.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9123/cruise91106auc7.jpg

[swimmerXC]

Up close
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5052/sd1091806bk0.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2444/2dnarty91206asf7.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9361/bunker91906fn2.jpg

[swimmerXC]

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[swimmerXC]

LD-2000
http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/6479/ld2000101506ec0.jpg
http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/8655/ld2000101506alz8.jpg

[planeman]

What is the missile under the L-15's wing at Zuhai ?
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20061031/i/r627808972.jpg
Looks like a new SRAAM with IR seeker and smaller wingspan which would be a hint towards internal stowage.

Are there any other pics of the L-15 there???????

[swimmerXC]

What is the missile under the L-15's wing at Zuhai ?
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20061031/i/r627808972.jpg
Looks like a new SRAAM with IR seeker and smaller wingspan which would be a hint towards internal stowage.

Are there any other pics of the L-15 there???????

lots, go to defencetalk, go look at the zhuhai gallery... im going to upload around 150+ pictures there of zhuhai! :china:

[planeman]

Found a pic from a different angle. The nose is covered.
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/28/missileou2.jpg
Anyone know what missile it is?

[swimmerXC]

Found a pic from a different angle. The nose is covered.
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/28/missileou2.jpg
Anyone know what missile it is?

i'm guessing PL-5 for the wingtip one... and some antiship missile for that big one
is TL-10A i think...
look at the seeker in the first picture
one of these
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/561/tl10afj1.jpg
http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/2721/tl10bfx5.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3900/tl10ayj4.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1048/tl6bru8.jpg

[planeman]

Thanks, I agree the inboard missile looks like the TL-6A - I'd never heard of it :) For an anti-ship missile it's very small and short ranged, like a Sea Skua equivilent. Strange, I would have thought that the C-702 already meets this potential niche in the Chinese market. Shipboard helicopters and very small patrol/FAC craft seem more fitting launch platforms.

Sinodefence should have a page on this missile. :)

[planeman]

EDIT: As someone rightly pointed out, this is a Taiwanese HF-II AShM. My bad. But since it's a pretty picture, I'll leave it up.
http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/2006-03-14/U1220P27T1D356885F3DT20060314100213.jpg

[swimmerXC]

http://image2.sina.com.cn/jc/2006-03-14/U1220P27T1D356885F3DT20060314100213.jpg
dual radar/IR guidance on YJ-83 (?)

Just because it has Chinese on it doesn't me it belongs to the PLA....
Thats a Taiwan Hsiung-Feng II

[Input]

Nice pics. Thanks for sharing!

[crobato]

Thanks, I agree the inboard missile looks like the TL-6A - I'd never heard of it :) For an anti-ship missile it's very small and short ranged, like a Sea Skua equivilent. Strange, I would have thought that the C-702 already meets this potential niche in the Chinese market. Shipboard helicopters and very small patrol/FAC craft seem more fitting launch platforms.

Sinodefence should have a page on this missile. :)

I think TL-10A is just C-701/702 renamed or by a competiting factory trying to offer a similar product to the same market niche. There is a very thin line between TV guided antiship missiles and TV guided air to surface missiles, and I am guessing this is probably more of the latter.

[planeman]

I think TL-10A is just C-701/702 renamed or by a competiting factory trying to offer a similar product to the same market niche. There is a very thin line between TV guided antiship missiles and TV guided air to surface missiles, and I am guessing this is probably more of the latter.

Just a visual comparison, but I'm pretty sure that it isn't a version of the C-702. It's generally slimmer and probably lighter (which throws off the sinodefence page's estimated weight for the YJ-7).

Also, any info on the TL-6B? It looks fatter and has four different wings.

Re designations:

"TL" as in TL-10 means ???? -and is a manufacturer's label(?)
"JJ" is used for air-launched versions in Chinese service(?)

So a JJ-10 = TL-10 = YJ-10??? .... = C-100? / C-1000???

[Finn McCool]

I didn't know that the Hsiung Feng (or really any missles, at least large ones or cruise missles) had the seeker off to the side like that. My technical knowledge pales in comparison to some of the others here on the forum....:o

[planeman]

Launch tube size comparison between YJ-62 on Type-052C (top) and YJ-83 on type-051C destroyers:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/883/missilescompid9.png
(Note the railings to confirm relative scale)

[tphuang]

another picture of YJ-83K
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2246/yj83jan4io5.jpg

[Deino]

another picture of YJ-83K


Thanks for posting ... but what's more strange is the PLAAF-emblem :confused: ... a new star & bar symbol ???

Deino