Gollevainen's quizz of the week (older)

[szbd]

Correct

[LIGO]

Correct

Thanks! I guess this is my turn? Then:

Identify the following and its fate:

[szbd]

gee. took me half a min to realize that's a ship

[King_Comm]

Thanks! I guess this is my turn? Then:

Identify the following and its fate:
==Chongqing, ex HMS Aurora, transfered from the British navy to ROC in 1948, defected to communists in February 1949, bombed by nationalists from 17th to 19th of March, and sank on the 20th
Salvaged in 1952, but the Chinese decided not to refurbish and return it to service, so was transfered to civilian use after all equipments were removed, and was scraped in the 80's.

[Gollevainen]

ah...propaply the first ship that have had a douple entry into the quizz then;) ;)

[LIGO]

==Chongqing, ex HMS Aurora, transfered from the British navy to ROC in 1948, defected to communists in February 1949, bombed by nationalists from 17th to 19th of March, and sank on the 20th
Salvaged in 1952, but the Chinese decided not to refurbish and return it to service, so was transfered to civilian use after all equipments were removed, and was scraped in the 80's.

Yes correct.

[King_Comm]

My turn then, name this ship
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/eat_pork/cruiser.jpg

[snake65]

Tashkent, nicknamed Blue Cruiser in the Soviet Navy

[King_Comm]

Tashkent, nicknamed Blue Cruiser in the Soviet Navy
==Correct.

[snake65]

Markedly German influence:D

[Scratch]

I'd say that's a Martin XB-48.
One participant in the contest for a new medium bomber for the SAC. Around the end of the cold war.
The contest was won by the B-45 and B-47.
Regarding german influence: I think in 1944, the US war department was aware of german advances in jet propulsion for aircraft, especially bombers. So they wanted a design for a medium bomber with sufficient jet power.

[bd popeye]

Scratch is correct..Here's a much larger pic of the same aircraft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:XB48-1.jpg

Scratch it's your turn!

[Scratch]

Ok, I'm going on then.
Was ist das? And be precise on the plane.
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/971/quiz2mu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[snake65]

Vickers WB-210, prototype of Valiant.
As a sidenote of German influence on XB-48 - the first flight was only 14 June, 1947, meaning that for two years already there was hell of a lot of ex-German wize kids besides Werner von Braun and Walter Dornbeger available/:D

[planeman]

Can I go for a cheap shot and say that Snake is wrong? Like by a milliscule amount; the correct answer is Vickers Type 660.


...



"WB-210" is the seriel number not the type.

[Scratch]

Now you both brought me into some trouble. Then again it probably was me saying be precise with the plane. It's indeed the Valiant prototype. But I think the second one already had the fence at the intake removed.
So, WB-210 is even the exact plane, that means snake's answer was right on spot.

[planeman]

lol, I was only kidding. Knowing the seriel of a plane from a los res picture is pretty damn impressive as always. I thought I was ok for military equipment until I started hanging around here.

[snake65]

This shouldn't be too hard:D

[Gollevainen]

Its a project 57 (NATO Krupnyy) class missile destroyer...but I cannot say wich one:confused:

[Gollevainen]

So to keep the quizz going on, Ill take my quizmaster's liberty to post new quizz

[snake65]

Actually, Golly, it's Project 57 BIS "Gnevny", but as I was away to Jakarta, I'm not going to press the BIS issue:nono: :D

[Gollevainen]

:D what does Bis mean anyways:confused:

[bd popeye]

:D what does Bis mean anyways:confused:

Probally business....

[planeman]

I thought it just meant Golly's answer was incomplete ;)

BIS = Russian suffix applied to many military types meaning improved, although technically a corruption of the French (/latin) meaning second (as in; first, second). Could be taken to imply second generation of design. Ie MiG-21Bis was the watershed second genertion of the MiG-21 series.

My posts bore even me sometimes.

[Costas 240GD]

So to keep the quizz going on, Ill take my quizmaster's liberty to post new quizz

That's a Swedish Ikv 103! ;)

[snake65]

That's a Swedish Ikv 103! ;)

How can You tell it from IKV 102?;)

[Gollevainen]

yeas, how would you?:D ?

anyway, its so close that I accept it...

[Costas 240GD]

I wrote 103? Damn, I meant 102! The exhausts on the rear fenders are a way to tell these two apart, I know, I have photos of both in my hard drive...
Sorry for the typo and the ensuing confusion! :(
New subject:
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2691/92653288uv0.jpg

[snake65]

Helicopter "D" - first prototype of Kamov's Ka-25. Here is seen at Tushino Air show in July 1961 with fake missile dummies.

[Costas 240GD]

aka Ka-20. Go Snake!

[snake65]

Ka-20 is a purely Western designation:D
Here is Your next one. I'd request Kostas to take a brake for at least half an hour:D :coffee:

[planeman]

British Challenger Mk1 MBT.

[snake65]

British Challenger Mk1 MBT.
No!:nana:

[zaky]

Chellenger II

[snake65]

Chellenger II
No!:coffee:

[zaky]

Vickers MBT

[Costas 240GD]

Methinks it's a Shir I prototype, developed for the Shah of Iran.

[snake65]

Well, I guess, if even Kostas is not on the spot, then this was unexpectedly hard one. That's FV-4030 Shir-2 and yes, it was a prototype also to Challenger Mk.1. So I guess Golly has to decide who was closest.:D

[Gollevainen]

well I call it unsolved, and you may post a new pic...only correct answers count, not close ones (untill they are practically sharing the same bedroom:D :D )

[snake65]

Next:coffee:

[planeman]

XM-803 (/MBT-70 prototype rebuild)

[snake65]

Correct.

[planeman]

Just the navy would be good enough in this case:
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2582/phototrimik0.jpg

[Costas 240GD]

LTTE Sea Tigers.

[planeman]

Damn, and I thought that was obscue as hell.

[Costas 240GD]

Not for an MP.netter, hehehehe....
Try this oldie:
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2246/fcm7206ads5.jpg

[bd popeye]

Sdkfz 184 Ferdinand....

[caksz]

SdKfz 164 Nashorn ... ferdinand don't have an open top

[Skorzeny]

It should be the Geschutzwagen Tiger for the 17cm K72, aka Grille 17.

That the picture posted has the gun outside the hull, should be a hint. The grille series was supposed to be able to dismount the gun

[caksz]

It should be the Geschutzwagen Tiger for the 17cm K72, aka Grille 17.

That the picture posted has the gun outside the hull, should be a hint. The grille series was supposed to be able to dismount the gun

i believe it is grille 17
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/pz13.htm
tiger II casis and armed with k72 170mm L50 gun

[planeman]

It looks like a CGI to me.

[Costas 240GD]

It's a photo of a model, and Skorzeny was the first to get it right, so it's his turn.

[bd popeye]

We've given the winner Skorzeny 3 days to post a question...So far nuthin'!!!:eek: So as a super moderator I will assume command of this thread..temporaliy..:D

What is this? There's also a thumbnail in case you can't see the pic..

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3676/is20077311tb9.jpg

[planeman]

BAE Systems M777A1 155mm gun. US service, so probably USMC.

[bd popeye]

BAE Systems M777A1 155mm gun. US service, so probably USMC.

Plane man is the winner! It is Canadian however..But you win anyway!

[planeman]

Isn't Canada in US?

Anyway. next up:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6815/koreanboat1pq3.jpg
(obviously I've removed the hull number)

[bd popeye]

Po Hang class ROK PCC???

[planeman]

I'm afraid not.

[Gollevainen]

Its Argentinian Meko 140 class corvette of the Espora class, either Gomez Roca, Robison or Parker, becouse they have the telescopic hangar, and the rest doesent.

[snake65]

Too late, dammit
It's also without Exocets

[planeman]

Golly got it. lol, I called the picture "Korean Boat" as a ruse but alas people know too much! "Too much" I tell you!

[bd popeye]

Golly got it. lol, I called the picture "Korean Boat" as a ruse but alas people know too much! "Too much" I tell you!

You certianly fooled me Planeman:o :o ..the ship is very similar to the Po Hang class ROK PCC....Oh well....

[Gollevainen]

Sorry for the late awnser..

[Costas 240GD]

Hubba, hubba, hubba....A prototype Flakpanzer Leopard (with 30mm Mauser cannon) that lost out to the Gepard.

[Gollevainen]

Well I think it's acceptable. This system was also refered as Matador in various sources...

your turn

[Costas 240GD]

Thanks Golly.
New subject:
http://upload9.postimage.org/102521/P_31.jpg (http://upload9.postimage.org/102521/photo_hosting.html)

[zaky]

P3 Orion

[Skorzeny]

3 Orion I think.

Damn too late

[Costas 240GD]

Yep. P-3F of the I.R.I.N. Aviation.
Go zaky!

[zaky]

Here is one of my favorites.

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/070705/xxxxxxx_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

[planeman]

Panhard EBR-75, French

[Skorzeny]

Its the Panhard E.B.R FL 11, which is the same as the EBR75 (fl10), but with the FL11 turret and 90mm gun. My guess. Not trying to steal your answer Planeman :)

Reg number 825 339 :D

[zaky]

Congratulation.

Skorzeny`s answer the correct one, because this is the 90 mm version.

[Skorzeny]

oldschool
http://upload9.postimage.org/138323/sporsmol.jpg (http://upload9.postimage.org/138323/photo_hosting.html)

[Costas 240GD]

Borgward with PAK 38 prototype.

[Skorzeny]

Bloody hell, thought that would last a bit longer :D
Yes its the pak38 on Gepanzerte Munitionsschlepper (Borgward)

your turn

[Costas 240GD]

Let's continue with old school stuff:
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6382/319xd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[zaky]

Look like a soviet light tank.
I am only guessing T-50?
:confused:

[Costas 240GD]

Sorry, no. It is Soviet-manned, but not Soviet-built.

[Skorzeny]

Valentine MK3
Part of the lend-lease help

[zaky]

:mad:
I should take moor attention to he turret.

[Costas 240GD]

Valentine MK3
Part of the lend-lease help

To be absolutely correct it should read Infantry Tank MkIII, Valentine MkIX.
But, as it is a Valentine, go ahead with the next one, Skorzeny! ;)

[Skorzeny]

really old
http://upload9.postimage.org/147762/dynom2sperling.jpg (http://upload9.postimage.org/147762/photo_hosting.html)

[Costas 240GD]

Carden-Loyd Mark VI Two Man Tankette.

[Skorzeny]

yep, your turn :)

[Costas 240GD]

Thank you!
What is this:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2586/whatht9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
(Something much more modern)

[snake65]

Mt-lb

[Costas 240GD]

MT yes, LB NOPE!!!!!

[bd popeye]

MTP-LB Repair version with no turret....:confused:

[Gollevainen]

well it isent based on MT-LB or other PT-76 derivates...the tracs looks more like some artillery tractor version of US M113 APC...
And thougth its too ugly to be western, but then again, Soviets havent sended it to our army, I have no glue:confused:

[bd popeye]

I don't know where Costas got that picture. Must have been buried deep on his hard drive....:D

But..I looked on many , many armour sites..I did many, many web searches...But I could not find a picture of that contraption...

[zaky]

This is a MT-SM

http://www.milparade.com/catalog/pdf/282.pdf

[Skorzeny]

damn, way too late again. looking like an idiot

[bd popeye]

This is a MT-SM

http://www.milparade.com/catalog/pdf/282.pdf

Good Job zaky!! Your turn!

[zaky]

Here is the next one:

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/070707/ccccccccccccc_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg[/url][/IMG]

[bd popeye]

zaky, dude, That picture is very small can you please repost it if no one guesses soon?..Thanks!

[Costas 240GD]

It is just about the same chassis as the 2S3 152mm SPH. It is still offered for export by ROSBORONEXPORT (www.rusarm.ru)

[Skorzeny]

Polish TK-3 tankette?

[bd popeye]

Well I looked it up with Skorzeny's post and he is correct!

Your turn Skorzeny!!

Here's a better picture of the Polish TK-3;

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7782/poltk31witoldjlawrynowieo2.jpg

[Skorzeny]

try this one
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7034/am34apcsd7.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=am34apcsd7.jpg)

[bd popeye]

Portuguese Army Chaimite V-200 Armored Personnel :D

[Skorzeny]

yes:)
your turn

[bd popeye]

Here it is with a thumbnail just in case you guys can't see the big picture...;

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1280/whatisityu1.jpg

[Skorzeny]

IJN Satsuma

[bd popeye]

Skorzeny,friend, you are too smart! Your turn again!

As a side note the IJN Satsuma was the first BB built in Japan.



IJN Satsuma Class Battleships
The Satsuma class battleships were the first battleships built in Japan. The two sister ships, Satsuma and Aki, were differentiated by the location of their funnels. Aki's third funnel was further apart from her second. Aki was different from her sistership also in terms of machinery. Due to a delay in the construction yards, Aki received turbine engines, one of the first capital ships to gain such.

Both ships had smaller guns than planned, as the original twelve inch guns were replaced with ten inch guns due to shortaes. The Satsuma class ships both received anti-aircraft guns during the First World War. After the war, both ships were disarmed in 1922 with regard to the Washington Naval Treaty. Two years later, the battleships were sunk after performing one last service as targets for their modern replacements.

[Skorzeny]

Thanks!
Now try this
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5790/sporsmolng9.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sporsmolng9.jpg)

[zaky]

Terrex

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product.php?prodID=294

[Skorzeny]

yes, thats the one.
your turn!

[zaky]

An easy now:

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7654/ccccccccccccccccqc0.th.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccccccccccccccccqc0.jpg)

[Costas 240GD]

I don't know where Costas got that picture. Must have been buried deep on his hard drive....:D

But..I looked on many , many armour sites..I did many, many web searches...But I could not find a picture of that contraption...

Actually I ripped it right off a Rosboronexport catalogue! ;)

[Costas 240GD]

Oh, and Zaky posted an Irish Panhard M3 APC.

[zaky]

Because I am in the work, and I post it in secrecy :D

Your turn Costas

[Costas 240GD]

Thanks mate!
New subject: ID the last two vehicles in the photo (and, optionally, the two preceding them, for extra bonus points :D). Hint: they are made by the same company in the UK.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7936/41547288550e97b60e1obj5.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41547288550e97b60e1obj5.jpg)

[zaky]

Only guessing :confused:

BAE Systems RG-12 or something similar

[Skorzeny]

My guess is a Glover Webb Tactica. Actually both look like variants of it. the two forward ones have turrets i`ve seen on the 10 man variant of the tactica. I has that kind of front also. It might have its own name now?
Glover Webb -> Alvis -> Alvis Hagglunds AB -> Alvis Vickers -> BAE Systems Land Systems (Weapons & Vehicles) Limited, -> BAE Systems Land and Armaments (might have something wrong here)
So a BAE Tactica?

[Costas 240GD]

Well, Skorzeny struck once again with deadly precision! Congratulations!

[Skorzeny]

Thanks!
Costas has some difficult questions :)
try this
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2816/bildi8.th.gif (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildi8.gif)

[Costas 240GD]

Beute Landsverk M-36 (ex-Dutch), apparently.

P.S. I thought that you'd enjoy a challenge once in a while. ;)

[Skorzeny]

Yes, challenges are fun :)

And you are right its The Landsverk L181 AKA dutch M-36

[Costas 240GD]

OK, then, and this wing belongs to a....
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1300/16018th3.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16018th3.jpg)
Extra points for ID'ing the gun and rocket pods visible in the photo. :D

[zaky]

su-25

[zaky]

UV-32-57 rocket pod and hmm ???

[zaky]

UPK-23-250 flexible gun pod

http://www.milparade.com/catalog/pdf/445.pdf

[Skorzeny]

UPK-23-250 flexible gun pod

http://www.milparade.com/catalog/pdf/445.pdf

You have the right link, SPPU-22, but you have written something else.

Good work by the way, I have to wake up earlier the get any answers in here :)

[Scratch]

I'd say Su-25 with, SPPU-20 gun pod and UB-32 rocket pod for S-5 rockets.

edit: AARRRRRRR !!

[zaky]

SPPU-22 flexible gun pod. I simply copy past from the PDF linc, but paste the earlyer word witch I searching for

[Costas 240GD]

That was fast, everyone, but Zaky was the fastest, so it's his turn. ;)

[zaky]

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/070710/cccccccccccccccccc_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

[Costas 240GD]

It looks like a Chevrolet T17 Deerhound.

[zaky]

Corect answer.
Your turn

[Costas 240GD]

An easy one for you this time:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7109/d45486352an7.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d45486352an7.jpg)

[bd popeye]

German TM-170

[Costas 240GD]

Indeed! Your turn ;).

[bd popeye]

Indeed! Your turn ;).

I think I have a good one for you!:D

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1323/dontknowdoyouza7.jpg

[Skorzeny]

its the Lockheed Martin RQ-3A DarkStar

[planeman]

Boeing Dark Star

[bd popeye]

its the Lockheed Martin RQ-3A DarkStar

Dang!! I thought it would be a tough one..Jeezzzz Oh well you win...I give the win to Skorzeny because he was first and has the most correct answer.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=616

A design team from Lockheed Martin, Boeing and DARPA incorporated stealth technology into the Dark Star, enabling it to fly reconnaissance missions in highly defended areas.

The Dark Star was an USAF UAV that just did not do very well. Only four were built.

Dark Star first flew on March 29, 1996 at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., but it crashed during its second flight on April 22, 1996. The second Dark Star, which was modified to increase its stability, first flew on June 29, 1998. During this 44-minute flight, it successfully executed a fully automated flight from takeoff to landing using the Global Positioning System, and it reached an altitude of 5,000 feet. On Jan. 11, 1999, the second Dark Star completed its first high-altitude flight and reached an altitude of 25,000 feet on a 2-hour, 37-minute flight. Two additional Dark Star vehicles were completed, but they never flew. In late January 1999 the Department of Defense terminated the Dark Star UAV program because of budget cuts.

[Skorzeny]

Thanks! The shape of it kinda stands out, so it was easy to remember :)

Now try this turret
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8472/turretuh3.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=turretuh3.jpg)

[planeman]

OTO-Melara Hitrole HMG turret

[zaky]

An easy one for you this time:


:D IMeanwhile I went home from the work.

[Skorzeny]

Yep planeman, your not to late this time :D
Its the OTO-Melara Hitrole.
Your turn!

[planeman]

http://i9.tinypic.com/4xo5lib.jpg

[zaky]

Italian Ariete mbt

[planeman]

correct

A much overlooked tank that's up there with the best. I'm surprised and confused Italy hasn't tried exporting it.

[zaky]

Here it is the next qestion:


http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/070711/75143635003_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/070711/75143635003_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/070711/97955598902_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/070711/97955598902_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/070711/5141521001_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/070711/5141521001_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg

[planeman]

TR-85 Romanian MBT. Similar to T-55 but not.

[zaky]

Wrong.
No TR-85

[Gollevainen]

Tr-77 (tr-580) ?

[Skorzeny]

just kidding, golly is right. it is a TR-580

[zaky]

Yes, it is a TR-580.
Golly`s turn

[Gollevainen]

Ok I post one when I get from work...

[Gollevainen]

Alright, lets go underwater..

[bd popeye]

USN USS Wahoo SS-565 a "Tang" Class desiel powered submarine:D

[Gollevainen]

nope;) (*cough* the jack *cough*)

[Scratch]

SS-184 USS Skipjack, salomon class submarine.

[bd popeye]

Fooled me with that 565 sign in the back ground..The boat may have been USN orginally ..but in this pic,as I have examined it carefully..it is not a USN sub at the time of this pic..May have been transfered from the USN to another navy....I dunno what it is:confused:

[planeman]

Guess Lima Class sub. Confused by flag, Bulgarian??? - (EDIT: flag looked like old style Bulgarian Ensign but clearly isn't).

EDIT2: Googled it in Russian and am 100% certain my guess was right. I am in disbelief that my 1980s recognition lessons efforts paid off. How on earth have I stored a profile image of an obscure sub in my head all these years when I can't even remember what I had for supper last night???? I surprise even myself :D

[snake65]

Yes, it's Project 1840. Interesting that tactical number is often given as BS-555, although the photo clearly shows 565.
P.S. I'm pissed off. I'm never here when the question is posted.

[Gollevainen]

Yeas Planeman was right...tough I don't understand how can you confuse the standart soviet navy jack:confused: ;)

ANyway if anyone has a linedrawing of that particular submarine class (pr. 1840) please send it to me, I need it for my drawings...

[planeman]

Re the jack, I must be mad

Anyway, here's a boat. As usual the number is has been removed to protect the innocent:
http://i10.tinypic.com/678scx0.jpg

[snake65]

planeman: Descubierta

Golly: http://www.deepstorm.ru/. they have a line drawing:coffee:

[Gollevainen]

Kasturi or Lekir of Malysian Navy's FS1500 class ligth frigates.

Thanks for the link snake, I'll take deeper look of it later this evning.

[bd popeye]

I checked Gollys answer and he is correct as far as I can tell.....

[planeman]

yes he is.

[Gollevainen]

OK, I will close this thread as it beguns to grow too large and burden the database. So the next quizz will be posted in completely new and fresh thread