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swimmerXC
02-19-2006, 01:33 AM
What do you guys think of Chinese cars?
Some look decent but I don't know about the quailty.
How many Chinese Auto-makers are there?
I'll post the pics tomorrow monring it's 2 AM here.... :D




ordinary dude
02-19-2006, 04:27 AM
The Chinese auto industry is still in its infancy, the dometic market is still extremly fragmented. The cost of chinese cars are dirt cheap by western standards, but overall industry quality is very poor. The Chinese car makers are in the same shoes the Koreans were in 10 years ago and the Japanese 20 years ago.

KYli
02-19-2006, 11:49 AM
Here is a good link about chinese cars picture.

http://car.autohome.cn/photo/1799/1/ (http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/1799/1/)

Most of chinese car manufactories are just built license cars, and the few car makers that had their own design used too many foreign parts. I would say it was a national sin that we do not have a good brand. Nowadays, China car company did brought some bankrupt foreign companies, and there
were talked to buy an engine plant in Brazil to bring it back to China. But for me they should invest more on reserch, instead of thinking they could just buy their way so they could over come their weakness and making more money overnight.

FuManChu
02-19-2006, 03:15 PM
What do you guys think of Chinese cars?
Some look decent but I don't know about the quailty.

Funnily enough in some respects it's the other way around.

As in many either aspects of "taste", China is behind the US, Europe and Japan by around 10 years or so. I remember when Rover finally packed up (good riddance), someone asked one of the commentators from Top Gear why Shanghai Automotives had bought the rights to Rover cars, when they hadn't really shifted under Rover's leadership. He test drove the Rover 75 and said it was a "good" car, but appealled to a market that didn't exist anymore in European nations and elsewhere. Whereas that kind of design is still very much popular in China amongst the "not-so-rich".

So some of the newer cars are actually not so bad, but just don't have that cutting edge design.

T-U-P
02-19-2006, 09:08 PM
let's see, you can get a car with everything (yes, i mean everything: a/c, automatic window, automatic lock, cd player, nice looking seats, nice looking dash board, etc.) that's quite cheap. the only problems (yes, only 1 problem) is that everything in the car break down fairly often. my dad bought a car last year and after 2 months of driving, first there was this vibrating sound when he accelerates, then the passenger side window got stuck, then the water tank leaked, then the... you get the idea.

still, it was a cool car. and most chinese cars have a smaller engine, so they kinda suck at going up a steep slope.

KYli
02-19-2006, 09:25 PM
Hi TUP

I heard that not only domestic cars have problems, but the foreign brand car are not top rate either. Someone told me that the foreign brand built secondary car, and new models will only come years after the models introduted in other countries. Is this true?:)

curse
02-19-2006, 10:18 PM
they dont look bad at all, what would the final dealership price be in the states anyone know?

KYli
02-19-2006, 10:33 PM
Well, it depends on what you looking for.

The link direct you to the Cherry cars first, and Cherry will probably the first chinese manufactor to arrive in US. Cherry cars usually sold around US7000-8000.

curse
02-19-2006, 10:45 PM
holy crap, if they are reliable thats gonna do alot of damage the market(good for china)

KYli
02-19-2006, 10:58 PM
Cherry is not known for reliable:) , but they do have some improvement lately.

stonewind
02-19-2006, 11:00 PM
holy crap, if they are reliable thats gonna do alot of damage the market(good for china)

Not for foreighners who buy them:nono: How safe is it?

curse
02-19-2006, 11:39 PM
well ill wait for them to saturate the market(about 5 months), hear all the opinions and probably buy one then.

sumdud
02-21-2006, 02:19 AM
I wouldn't count on Chinese cars. And I definitely don't trust the two brands that are coming in: Chery and Jili. Chery makes luxurious but fragile cars while Jili makes lighter but also fragile cars. (And you definitely want to stay away from Amur Rivers......)

When I saw the report Ger_mark brought out about the crash test, I wasn't surprised.

But I do know some Chinese brands that are OK.
For Sedans: Go for Hong Qi(Red Flag)/Di Yi(First) brand (Old designs, but reliable, this is the company that use to make cars for the top officials before 1978.) or the Zhong Hua sedan.
For Vans: (Minivans aren't very popular in China.) Go for Jin Bei (Golden Flag)
This is also the company that makes the Zhong Hua sedan.
For SUVs: I'd say Huang He, though I am not too sure.
For large trucks, pick Dongfeng(Yes, the man in the house;) , East Wind) or Jiefang(Liberation)