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swimmerXC
02-06-2006, 05:44 PM
Continue from PLAN Pic Thread (http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?t=265&page=1&pp=13)
PLAN Pic Thread 2 (http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/showthread.php?p=14774#post14774)
the previous threads should be sticked (on top of the forum)
DDG 51C, 115 and 116 (PSed?), Old School FAC
http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/7283/11526063xq.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3176/1152606a6jj.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1636/1152606b1ge.jpg
http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/8526/1152606c7vr.jpg
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5527/0266ov.jpg




MIGleader
02-06-2006, 06:54 PM
The pics of 115 and 116 arnt Psed. If you look in the water, you'll notice theres actually two ships in the reflections too. That would be nearly impossible to photoshop.

swimmerXC
02-08-2006, 01:27 AM
looks like the answer to your 51C thread is solved
..., AIP, Kilo
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4905/carrier26066dt.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1399/aip27063sn.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4663/aip2706a5fz.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3739/aip2706b0ph.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5900/kilo26065qd.jpg

bd popeye
02-10-2006, 02:32 PM
SwimmerXC, You are the best picture poster on the web..military wise. Don't know where you get all the pictures but keep up the great work!!!:)

Now..if you only had some real RECENTpics of the Varyag!!!!! Maybe some taken within the last month???????? Naw..that is too much to ask or is it??:confused: If anyone can do it it would be swimmer..yes I'm cheering you on!!!

swimmerXC
02-10-2006, 07:45 PM
I think you should thanks the brave people taking these pictures.. if we every find out who they are
FACS 2208, 22XX, 2210, 2211 (only ones we have?)... i wonder what missiles they hold, it's looks pretty big inside
http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/7264/220812506a6dv.jpg
http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/6843/2208a4pn.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2308/facxxxx2hn.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/5530/fac22107lk.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6481/2211a5sr.jpg

swimmerXC
02-12-2006, 01:13 AM
Designers?, DDG 51C, FFG 054, Carrier CGI
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/83/model27066ka.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2271/51c2806a2gg.jpg
http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/8271/526211062yc.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1048/varyag24067se.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4950/cgi210061mm.jpg

swimmerXC
02-12-2006, 10:18 PM
Two post.. more news..
They say this is for construction of new ship..., new FAC?, hehehe our Russian friends toy, DDG 138
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5219/newship21206a6pl.jpg
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/580/newship21206f2bi.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2613/11621206a6sc.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1339/116212067cg.jpg
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5076/138212068wg.jpg

swimmerXC
02-12-2006, 10:19 PM
I SEE RUST ON THAT THING, RUSSIA BETTER SCRUB IT OFF OR PAY UP!
DDG 138
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5035/13821206a9hw.jpg
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/6129/13821206b7xp.jpg
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/87/13821206c7ir.jpg
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/277/13821206d6si.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4493/13821206e5se.jpg

swimmerXC
02-13-2006, 08:25 PM
New ship?, ..., Kilo, Old Song
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/9977/newddg213069ry.jpg
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3798/newddg21306a7sz.jpg
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1792/torpedo213065hv.jpg
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6209/kilo21006d6cs.jpg
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/9854/122064bn.jpg

Seacraft
02-14-2006, 09:49 PM
That carrier CGI looks intriguing, and would cost the PLA alot of personel and aircraft...

Why no angled deck?

swimmerXC
02-16-2006, 12:27 AM
No Idea...
CIWS, Sov 136,DDG 17X (170 or 171), New or Old?, Differen Yuan? (From Xinhui's Blog and CJDBY)
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/7332/ciws214066hp.jpg
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/6163/136214069gi.jpg
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9797/17x215064pp.jpg
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/3198/yang21406b6uc.jpg
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/495/yuan215066yj.jpg

PLABUDDY
02-16-2006, 04:58 PM
Proposed Varyag Completed
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1313/10204871675198753sz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

MIGleader
02-16-2006, 05:00 PM
Thats not varyag...looks like a varyag control tower put on the charles de gaulle. I wonder who would make such a cgi?

swimmerXC
02-16-2006, 05:29 PM
Varyag, Guards, ..., UAV, Zubar?
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7230/varyag216066ya.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5201/insepct124066za.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/979/stupif21306a8tp.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6498/recon124060ia.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/174/zuber216064cp.jpg
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MIGleader
02-17-2006, 11:05 AM
Is that zubr the same one as the one russia had built for china, in typhuangs thread?

swimmerXC
02-17-2006, 09:56 PM
FFG excrise, FAC, CARRIER park..., Yuan SSK
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5976/excrise124061wd.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4561/770773217068mj.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5924/park217069ll.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/7294/park21706a2zt.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8136/yuan217061cl.jpg
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swimmerXC
02-18-2006, 01:26 PM
..., Ka-28 replensihing ship,Jiangwei II's, 887
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8324/771217060zr.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/4079/ka28218067pv.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/5665/50827060qm.jpg
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/3166/5xx231068wq.jpg
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2789/887214069ef.jpg
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crobato
02-18-2006, 09:11 PM
Do you notice that is a Blackhawk helicopter bringing supplies to that patrol ship?

Gauntlet
02-18-2006, 09:26 PM
Do you notice that is a Blackhawk helicopter bringing supplies to that patrol ship?
Yeah, the PRC does operate a couple of Blackhawks, but I never knewed it was used in naval service...

PLABUDDY
02-18-2006, 10:09 PM
Yeah, the PRC does operate a couple of Blackhawks, but I never knewed it was used in naval service...
Actually PRC operates >20 Blackhawks...but I've never seen one with the PLAN before. Thanks for posting the picture.:china:

swimmerXC
02-21-2006, 06:01 PM
AK-630, Type 730 CIWS, FAC, What the H*LL is this diagram talking about?
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/176/ak630217066xk.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8421/ciws214061cl.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4931/730220066sg.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1327/770773217060ki.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1781/dia219067xs.jpg
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swimmerXC
02-21-2006, 10:35 PM
Ship, DDG 138, 804 (what kinda ship is this?), support
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/5256/new221061lw.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1462/138221060ly.jpg
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6218/13822106a6mv.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/989/804218069gy.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9752/all218063gh.jpg
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coolieno99
02-23-2006, 04:06 PM
Varyag, Guards, ..., UAV, Zubar?
... etc ....


The Guards are holding SKS rifles(with bayonets). Probably use only for ceremonial occasions.
I have one of those SKS rifle just like in the photo. It works pretty good.

swimmerXC
02-23-2006, 09:32 PM
...
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8251/torpedo223065zl.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/6089/torpedo220066xm.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/748/all3223060we.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5010/170218066ja.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/246/17022306k9ue.jpg
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swimmerXC
02-25-2006, 01:09 PM
DDG 167, DDG 169, ...
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3795/167225064cc.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5964/169223066ru.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/196/16922306a5ap.jpg
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/8199/82218061cg.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4440/82h218067kf.jpg
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bd popeye
02-28-2006, 10:24 PM
hey Swimmer..any more drawings of that PLAN LPD? I think I remember some from the old forum...Any info if the PLAN is building that ship? Thanks!

swimmerXC
03-01-2006, 11:02 PM
All that I have well of the ones you wanted to see, i think....
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/3130/9109aa.jpg
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/6477/908228067yh.jpg
http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/9109/9086nv.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/8774/94812306b9km.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5738/94812306a6sl.jpg

swimmerXC
03-01-2006, 11:04 PM
...
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/875/cgi301069ai.jpg
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8731/137228066ym.jpg
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/4388/kilo228063fu.jpg
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/2849/sub125060qa.jpg
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1091/887224068bz.jpg

swimmerXC
03-02-2006, 05:46 PM
100mm Gun on DDG 52B, SSM on DDG 52C, Radar on DDG 52C, Sov 137, Nice wallpaper of DDG 169
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/6559/100mm302069so.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2481/ssm227066dm.jpg
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/1368/radar227062tf.jpg
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/6580/137226064kg.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6932/169301063ar.jpg

swimmerXC
03-05-2006, 10:59 PM
...
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6034/730304065pl.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6663/launch224066rs.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1978/torpedo122068go.jpg
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9808/100mm302064uq.jpg
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/2820/a244swhiteheada7lo.jpg

xihaoli
03-05-2006, 11:10 PM
What is your source of the submarine comparison picture??? Is it fan art, or something based on actual data? From the looks of it the song would go into the 5000+ ton dived range, considering that the kilo is 4000 tons exact. Interestingly, the length of the romaros mings kilos and songs are all pretty accurate.

swimmerXC
03-05-2006, 11:12 PM
What is your source of the submarine comparison picture??? Is it fan art, or something based on actual data? From the looks of it the song would go into the 5000+ ton dived range, considering that the kilo is 4000 tons exact. Interestingly, the length of the romaros mings kilos and songs are all pretty accurate.

I got it from War-Sky a couple of months ago, it's been on my HD but I never displayed it :o
I'm pretty sure it's fan art, remember PLAN never reveals anything :china:

tphuang
03-08-2006, 05:41 PM
937 and 512, can't remember what they are
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/bbs/11018441/20060308/images/13152621_2006030810012091725700.jpg

swimmerXC
03-08-2006, 05:47 PM
937 and 512, can't remember what they are
[

supply ship (notice the AK-630's) and thailand OPV
FAC
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2326/2211308069zq.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7143/221130806a3um.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4388/221130806d0xc.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9090/221130806e8ry.jpg

swimmerXC
03-08-2006, 06:57 PM
730 CIWS, 891 notice the PAR, FAC, sister ship to 970 test ship (the one that tested HQ-9 VLS SAM and YJ-63 SSM on 52C)
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/8300/730308068nc.jpg
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/5852/891308063om.jpg
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/6358/221130806c9cg.jpg
http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/5364/221130806b3nr.jpg
http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/1373/54a308066we.jpg

xihaoli
03-09-2006, 02:16 AM
Dam it you beat me to it...

Is that really the size of the 2208 FAC (I presume it's some kind of block 20 vessal?) The thing looks king of big for a 220 ton FAC as described by Janes. You also get the perspective of humans which really brings it in perspective.

The most striking features of this ship is the slightly elivated incline and the object placed between the pilot cabin and the presumed missile tobes. Also notice the surface/airial/scanning radar dome.....Wouldn't all these features really increase the RCS of the "stealthy" fac?

Could the incline be some kind of incline for kind of LY-60 Vls short-range air defence system?

The more pictures i get of it, the more un-seaworthy i think it is....

Btw, if you measure the length of the vessal, ~21.5 cm, and the height of the people, ~0.6mm, the length of the vessal comes to ~59.2m. Judging from this, and the fact that the 38m Osa I's were ~200 tonnes, wouldn't it be fair to place this ship more in the 400 ton+ range? Although it does have a very high waterline.

swimmerXC
03-12-2006, 01:58 AM
Varyag...., FAC (that radar is going to get blown off...)
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4241/carrier310061ix.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8597/2208310064nz.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9906/2211310064oc.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2280/4310066kx.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/2117/220831006a1uh.jpg

tphuang
03-12-2006, 03:06 PM
nice, the first time that we've seen all 4 of them together. 2208-2211 I guess. I wonder how many more of these things will be built.

swimmerXC
03-12-2006, 06:00 PM
Varyag....
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/2002/varyag31206d5no.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/98/varyag31206c1co.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3755/varyag31206b5ny.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/6029/varyag312066bx.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3498/varyag31206a6bn.jpg

swimmerXC
03-13-2006, 09:26 PM
Weapons
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4691/weapons31306f6qs.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1140/weapons31306g3ka.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9500/weapons31306a7nq.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4543/weapons31306d2pp.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/288/weapons313066zw.jpg

waveguide
03-16-2006, 04:08 AM
Swimmer:
thanks for the up-to-date pictures. some of them are newly posted on boards here in China, while some others i've never seen before. i think this information collection effort is worthpraising for an outsider who even doesn't understand much Chinese.

by the way, there are guesses the aircraft aboarding Varyag is most probably Su-33. this is possibly revealled by some young engineerers who doesn't quite understand Catch-22. and many people here believe it.

swimmerXC
03-16-2006, 06:31 PM
LPD CGI, gun, DDG 138
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/6596/lpd31606a0me.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1713/lpd316065ww.jpg
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/5941/weapons31306b2ob.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4979/138315067td.jpg
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/483/138316062qf.jpg

swimmerXC
03-16-2006, 09:13 PM
Look at this baby move, wow imaging if that tanker couldn't stop... there goes one PLAN ship
Credits (he took the picture): To fazer01
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8929/17131206a1fn.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3630/171312063wk.jpg

swimmerXC
03-19-2006, 10:24 AM
Research Ship, 054 and 054A FFG, Kinda small in there
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5046/yang319067lg.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5296/yang31906a8sk.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3950/054319065gq.gif
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1515/054a319062wz.gif
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3821/torpedo319062gn.jpg

swimmerXC
03-21-2006, 02:41 PM
FACs
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/6664/fac321067vu.jpg
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/5382/fac32106a2ug.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4986/fac32106b8uk.jpg

Gollevainen
03-21-2006, 03:03 PM
supply ship (notice the AK-630's) and thailand OPV

Actually the ship wiht Ak-630 is a training ship build for Algerian Navy...

swimmerXC
03-21-2006, 07:39 PM
Some clips the rest can be seen at here (http://mil.qianlong.com/4919/2006/03/20/2420@3064788.htm)
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9598/cctv32006k2ko.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/426/cctv32006c7tg.jpg
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/1318/cctv32006j0yg.jpg
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2789/cctv32006f9wf.jpg
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7186/cctv32006b7ti.jpg

swimmerXC
03-21-2006, 09:54 PM
OK they say this is part of Chinese carrier plan that leaked on the net... Im confused...
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2690/varyag32106b7bb.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/63/varyag321064wt.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7551/varyag32106a8gu.jpg

swimmerXC
03-24-2006, 08:04 PM
Kilo, FAC, FFG 526, FFG 525, 054A...
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1753/kilo30906a5zq.jpg
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8094/built323067mj.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3264/526322066st.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8363/525324068zn.jpg
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9343/054a324068dk.jpg

swimmerXC
03-28-2006, 10:48 PM
...
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8614/han32206a2vm.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9905/092325065dh.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3453/song32006b5zf.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2716/kilo32306a2us.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7048/kilo323061lk.jpg

tphuang
04-01-2006, 11:30 PM
more pictures of Song
http://pic.top81.cn/upload/203/2006/4/1/200641193746.jpg
http://pic.top81.cn/upload//203/2006/4/1/200641194011.jpg

swimmerXC
04-04-2006, 05:38 PM
892, Kilo?, ... DDG 52B (169) launch photos
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9154/89240206i1eh.jpg
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/2456/song403064gp.jpg
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/7169/kilo404067ae.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/886/name302066fk.jpg
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/1410/52b320065ib.jpg

MIGleader
04-04-2006, 05:48 PM
Is that a song under construction at Wuhan in the 2nd and third pics?

swimmerXC
04-04-2006, 06:03 PM
Is that a song under construction at Wuhan in the 2nd and third pics?

It's a Kilo or Yaun.. the song doesn't have little rectangular hump on the back..

MIGleader
04-04-2006, 06:13 PM
Yeah...I see. Must be a yuan, coz i cant imagine why the Chinese would be building kilos

crolick
04-06-2006, 02:58 PM
I suppose this is the right place for the link with pictures?!

Enjoy 052C :china:

http://forummarine.forumactif.com/ftopic215.D-autres-photos-des-destroyers-de-type-052C.htm

swimmerXC
04-14-2006, 01:23 AM
...
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2214/yuan412064os.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3726/transport412064yc.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5427/transport41206a5sp.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/272/138412068mo.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9831/old411068gb.jpg

Sea Dog
04-14-2006, 05:05 AM
Is the Xia up there painted blue, or do my eyes deceive me? I'm also assuming that the kilo up in that picture is undergoing some kind of overhaul. It does look rather stripped down, though.

PanAsian
04-15-2006, 10:01 AM
Anyone know what kind of boats are on the transport in the picture?

And not to doubt the authenticity of the picture, but what says the transport is Chinese?

swimmerXC
04-16-2006, 12:58 AM
FAC, Sov
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1254/fac415065oc.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3655/41506a5fy.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1319/415068ze.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7061/137412066jk.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4618/136412063qn.jpg

xihaoli
04-16-2006, 01:42 AM
From the picture of the range radius, does it show that the Sov delivered in December uses the 250km extended range SunBurn?

Why is the anti-submarine radius so large? I don't think China got and SS-n-14 or 16s........

MIGleader
04-16-2006, 12:13 PM
xihaoli, im pretty sure it was 200km, not 250.

attakc rockets

http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyboard/uploads/060328202709__1_020.jpg

http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyboard/uploads/060328202650__1_010.jpg

http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyboard/uploads/060328202617__1_005.jpg

swimmerXC
04-17-2006, 11:18 PM
DDG 52B, FACs
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/914/168415063ys.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/107/fac417069sb.jpg
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/4784/fac41706f4cu.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6177/fac41706g5zp.jpg
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/4062/fac41706h3vb.jpg

swimmerXC
04-18-2006, 10:35 PM
167, 168 (1 camera and 7 lights....), 171, FAC
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7291/167417060ol.jpg
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3482/16841806s0kl.jpg
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3817/171417060xy.jpg
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6333/171418064hv.jpg
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3384/fac41806b9nx.jpg

bd popeye
04-18-2006, 11:06 PM
I really enjoy looking at your pics swimmer dude!

But as a real sailor when I see pics of the PLAN ships they look so clean. It's like they all just came out of the shipyard....That would bother me if I were the CNO of the PLAN. Those ships appear to be clean because they spend limited time at sea or some good PS work. Just my opinion

tphuang
04-20-2006, 03:19 PM
171 pictures
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/important/64/20060420/images/13261798_2006042011562520154300.jpg
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/important/64/20060420/images/13261798_2006042011562545445100.jpg
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/important/64/20060420/images/13261798_2006042011562547345000.jpg
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/important/64/20060420/images/13261798_2006042011562549202300.jpg
nice shot of the APAR
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/important/64/20060420/images/13261798_2006042011562551126500.jpg
other end of the ship
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/important/64/20060420/images/13261798_2006042011562553214200.jpg

Ron9210
04-21-2006, 04:44 AM
oh
some of LZ's pics are from www.fyjs.cn/bbs
but i don't know why you paint the logo with tools as ps

swimmerXC
04-21-2006, 11:21 PM
I really enjoy looking at your pics swimmer dude!

But as a real sailor when I see pics of the PLAN ships they look so clean. It's like they all just came out of the shipyard....That would bother me if I were the CNO of the PLAN. Those ships appear to be clean because they spend limited time at sea or some good PS work. Just my opinion

Well the 052B we know has been at sea and seen it use some of it's weapons... so it might be dirty...
and 052C, it was romored that the APAR on it was overheated so...
...
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7216/ciws421064hg.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7157/5161of.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3717/5161161ke.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/557/567328069vy.jpg
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1945/52832406d3qm.jpg

swimmerXC
04-24-2006, 10:11 PM
FAC, !@!#@!#!@#... park?
http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/8796/fac432066yk.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6602/fac43206a8dw.jpg
http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/4599/fac43206b4ue.jpg
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/5967/fac43206c8ob.jpg
http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/3407/carrier424069er.jpg

swimmerXC
04-27-2006, 11:55 PM
Not quite PLAN... but oh well.. "Made in China" Thailand 512 OPV "Narathiwat"
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2971/512427066ps.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4048/51242706a4oa.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/804/51242706b7zg.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/183/51242706c5ic.jpg
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7929/51242706d1ts.jpg

swimmerXC
04-30-2006, 09:44 PM
...
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/782/2423061hy.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2383/242306a0ts.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6363/242306b8oh.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2513/242306c7gy.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1598/coastguard429067lz.jpg

PanAsian
05-04-2006, 07:49 PM
Does anyone have pictures of PLAN ships in formation or in exercises that they can post?

Sea Dog
05-04-2006, 08:23 PM
What is the purpose of the last ship? What are those satellite antennas for?

swimmerXC
05-05-2006, 01:14 AM
This what you wanted PanAsian.. if you mean like lots of ships together I got a whole bunch of CGI's on it
Sea Dog, it's a space trackingship for missile or space launches
Fleet
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4773/excrise124065ms.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9267/1678875zj.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1236/sub425063sv.jpg
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3838/excreise9ss.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6783/excrise211063ia.jpg

big toothbrush
05-06-2006, 04:24 PM
small clip of 171.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwgxgZOaFP4

swimmerXC
05-08-2006, 05:55 PM
NICE PICS OF DDG 052C "171"
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/340/17150806c5ec.jpg
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/6847/171508062ge.jpg
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/7577/17150806b5jh.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4720/17150806d3pv.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9247/17150806a4nu.jpg

swimmerXC
05-08-2006, 05:56 PM
FACs.....
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6827/fac507064li.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7817/fac508067zw.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4239/fac50806a6gs.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/572/fac50806b1ir.jpg

swimmerXC
05-10-2006, 05:24 PM
Varyag (probably been posted and old pics... but could see from far away), DDG 051C
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1914/varyag510063uq.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8746/varyag51006a3xm.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9326/varyag51006b6ez.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5185/sub510067if.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1159/051c510063ce.jpg

Gollevainen
05-11-2006, 06:32 AM
The last pics actually first pic showing two 051C, that doesent look so suspicious...But im not admitting anything yet:D

bd popeye
05-11-2006, 05:00 PM
Once again swimmer dude your pics are excellent..BUT that pic of the 171 looks suspicious to me. Why?? I have never seen an active ship at anchor with no crewmen on deck. Never ever. Does the PLAN have stealth sailors now?? Otherwise the pics are great as normal.

tphuang
05-13-2006, 09:28 AM
alright, this appears to be a new picture of a 051C. Not sure if it's 115 or 116.
not sure if anything is installed on this one that was not on the previous pictures.
http://www.xffw.com/1141556531/10_1173_fad82f8cd1d410d.jpg

swimmerXC
05-14-2006, 08:12 PM
That 171 is at port...
FAC and 51C?, DDG 51B 167... with rust..
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5369/model510063ka.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/944/16750806a3fk.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5422/167511060aj.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9022/16751106a2uo.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/272/167513060po.jpg

bd popeye
05-14-2006, 08:26 PM
That's not all rust. that's fuel spilled amidships while performing a replenishmnet at sea..I like that stuff. That means dem boys been to sea being sailors:) ..Not sitting in port polishing brass. And the rest is rust..that's good too. That is another sign they have been to sea...

I would love to train the PLAN in, shipboard safety, flight deck operations, weapons handling and fire fighting....I don't think Uncle Sam would appericate it though!

Like my new avatar???

swimmerXC
05-18-2006, 10:59 PM
FFG 526, FAC (ooooo missile doors cut open), DDG 51C
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2239/526518062lc.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/418/fac516062pi.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5118/fac51606a6zw.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/6654/fac51606b7wl.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5503/51c518067lt.jpg

sino52C
05-19-2006, 10:29 PM
Speaking of the Type 52C, do you think this picture is for real?

http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard/uploads/10899601045.JPG

It seems kind of weird that a 52B, 52C and 54 would all share the same pier....

swimmerXC
05-22-2006, 12:06 AM
There all in the same fleet so yeah, no ps
FAC, Test Ship 891, Torpedo, FFG 524
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/5867/fac521067hu.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7571/891521063br.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/613/89152106a9nj.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1605/torpedo510068qy.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3069/524521062tk.jpg

MIGleader
05-22-2006, 04:11 PM
time for me to bring em out!!!

http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyboard/uploads/Repairdoc_3_48705_85f16fe6dca715a.jpg
Zhoushan repair dock

http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyboard/uploads/Type2208_10_422_d07fb8a3ca20679.jpg
22 construction

http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyboard/uploads/FFG514_10_2107_05634cd9ee308a9.jpg
jianghu

http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyboard/uploads/Sov-137_10_2107_dae3eae667b8327.jpg
137

http://www.anyboard.net/gov/mil/anyboard/uploads/Type70-2-lifesaver.jpg
plan early gun support

MIGleader
05-22-2006, 04:14 PM
AGI 851 intellegence ship

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/xinhuius/851-55625500.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/xinhuius/851-55625501.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/xinhuius/851-55625503.jpg

New look of the chiense coast guard, as opposed to old look

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/xinhuius/33031new.jpg
police look

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/xinhuius/37011.jpg
military look

MIGleader
05-22-2006, 04:17 PM
more police look
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/xinhuius/33031new2.jpg

Nanhaijiu 111
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/xinhuius/xin_490403011133017249899.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/xinhuius/xin_490403011133017249897.jpg

pics from its resuce mission
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/xinhuius/xin_490403011133017249900.jpg

swimmerXC
05-23-2006, 10:04 PM
Xinhui's blog, let me guess????
...
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/130/vessel52206i8cn.jpg
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2624/vessel52206a7sx.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2057/vessel52206h4lb.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8803/vessel52206b4zn.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9060/vessel522065hv.jpg

Sczepan
05-24-2006, 01:23 PM
seems to be readdy 4 sea trials:

tphuang
05-24-2006, 02:08 PM
what the heck? Where is the type 730 CIWS? Also, I see the square cannisters, so it's still firing YJ-83 instead of YJ-62.

Edit: never mind, I think I see the CIWS now

ChinaWall65
05-24-2006, 04:05 PM
you don't see it? it is on the side...

Edit: never mind, i just read your second line

swimmerXC
05-25-2006, 09:21 PM
...
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5319/msa425065ge.jpg
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9961/naval133mmlaser508069ks.jpg
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/9579/naval133mmlaser50806a5ej.jpg
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8277/naval133mmlaser50806c3bf.jpg
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1688/nanhaijiu523060cj.jpg

swimmerXC
05-29-2006, 09:28 PM
FAC, Top View, Torpedo, 891, 892
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9008/fac524060yh.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9968/yu529065by.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3376/torp52906a2ue.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7206/891529061qu.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7319/89252906d5ht.jpg

planeman
05-30-2006, 06:03 PM
...
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5319/msa425065ge.jpgIs that the craft that the FAC 2208 class is developed from?

swimmerXC
05-30-2006, 09:46 PM
I think there's a ferry that's in Shanghai that came from the Austrilia idea of the hull, then MSA and PLAN adopted, if I still had my old HD I had a picture of the ferry next to a FAC
...
http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/1306/fac53006a4la.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2209/badge530069kb.jpg

swimmerXC
06-04-2006, 09:37 PM
..., sub, FAC, 168 it's dirty and new steal plate?
http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/2611/msa530067pu.jpg
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/9458/sub603061xg.jpg
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2959/fac60106d4nv.jpg
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7350/fac60106e9tc.jpg
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1398/168604067xm.jpg

swimmerXC
06-06-2006, 06:57 PM
Xia, 892, 138, 526
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8171/406606066wy.jpg
http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/9853/892606069au.jpg
http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/1412/138606065dj.jpg
http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/2739/526606066wq.jpg
http://img349.imageshack.us/img349/1194/52660606a2lr.jpg

swimmerXC
06-09-2006, 12:11 AM
Fleet, 168, 891, OLDIES!
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2808/fleet607065or.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5158/052b607063qa.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/8576/052b60706a7hl.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/8404/891608064au.jpg
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/89/101124060ip.jpg

big toothbrush
06-09-2006, 01:07 PM
http://www.war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_060609/3_32520_7e2daf6b4e02971.jpg

swimmerXC
06-09-2006, 03:20 PM
I was looking around Google Earth and look what I found a sub..... FFG and 51Cs
i think i know where to go next!
GOOGLE EARTH KICKS ASS!
WTF IS THIS? XIA or the new SSBN? :confused:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/46/wow60906c9ms.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5074/wow60906b7pl.jpg
FFG
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/4146/wow60906a1ws.jpg
051C
http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/5109/051c1kj.jpg

Anonymous
06-09-2006, 07:22 PM
Definitely Xia...only counted 12 tubes

Red-Star
06-12-2006, 07:33 AM
http://i5.tinypic.com/143zzgg.jpg
http://i5.tinypic.com/143zzvp.jpg

swimmerXC
06-12-2006, 05:09 PM
She's getting washed?
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1817/170612062td.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9056/17061206a5ii.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9674/17061206e4kc.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6743/17061206c5aw.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/3344/17061206b0lz.jpg

Jeff Head
06-12-2006, 10:19 PM
She's getting washed? I am not sure, but it looks like they may be testing some kind of NBC (Nuclear/Biological/Chemical) decomntamination system. It could well be that they are just washing her, but from the way it is being sprayed down, I would guess it could also be a NBC decom system.

swimmerXC
06-17-2006, 02:43 PM
FFG 527
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9642/527617066vd.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5185/52761706a6ui.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6650/52761706b6co.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8351/52761706c7gl.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3747/52761706d3ym.jpg

Red-Star
06-18-2006, 01:11 PM
http://i6.tinypic.com/14ttytl.jpg

swimmerXC
06-18-2006, 10:46 PM
FAC, DDG 52C radar
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5501/fac50806a3pp.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6151/fac50806b5rn.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1425/type022612063oy.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7553/type02261206c2kt.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4214/radar618063pi.jpg

tphuang
06-18-2006, 11:41 PM
FAC, DDG 52C radar
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5501/fac50806a3pp.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6151/fac50806b5rn.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1425/type022612063oy.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7553/type02261206c2kt.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4214/radar618063pi.jpg
well, the last one was just speculated to be the "export version" of the 052C radar, whatever that means. Not much you can read into it.

tphuang
06-20-2006, 03:40 PM
claims to be the 054A currently under construction in Hudong shipyard. Note, there is also one supposedly under construction in Huangpu shipyard.
http://war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_060619/3_48705_34b3fe5305c835a.jpg
compared to 525
http://war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_060619/3_48705_46f9e75e14a0aca.jpg
http://war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_060619/3_48705_eec08004f1687ba.jpg
compared to a possible model of 054A
http://war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_060619/3_48705_d26743ec24b383e.jpg

Finally, notice that there is also the body of a ship constructing on the right side
http://war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_060619/3_48705_3870e03f7c8912d.jpg
could be a second 054A or just the other end of this ship.

tphuang
06-20-2006, 03:54 PM
more picture, wow, this is my lucky day.

some pictures of 171
http://war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_060619/3_50869_1060d1e2efc87ca.jpg
http://war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_060619/3_50869_794a4e4fafbeced.jpg
http://war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_060619/3_50869_de6371941729fb5.jpg

Jeff Head
06-20-2006, 07:38 PM
claims to be the 054A currently under construction in Hudong shipyard....Finally, notice that there is also the body of a ship constructing on the right side...could be a second 054A or just the other end of this ship.I am not seeing the pics tphuang.

Mod Edit (SwimmerXC): It takes time to load... he linked it directly from a Chinese Forum... their server is slow...

PeoplesPoster
06-20-2006, 07:44 PM
http://i6.tinypic.com/14ttytl.jpg

Isn't that a Burke or a Kongo?

PeoplesPoster, there are no off-topic one-liners allowed in this forum as 1 of 10 major rules established here.

By the way, welcome to our forum, introduce yourself in the clubroom.

tphuang
06-22-2006, 02:58 PM
more,
this is from the same shipyard.
you can see that 054A is split into 4 sections before merging
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/2824/054ajun229rn.jpg
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/88/054ajun2221ot.jpg

They claim this is 071, but I don't know
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5193/071jun224ia.jpg

bd popeye
06-22-2006, 04:44 PM
Peopleposter, That is diffently a USN ship. You can see USNS ships in the background. I'm pretty sure that's an Arliegh Buke. You can also see MK-41 VLS on the right side of the pic in the rear. On the bridge you can see the ships ribbons(awards)

chicket9
06-22-2006, 05:07 PM
Hmmm that last pic...

Same thoughts exactly...071 or something else? Depends on what shipyard...could be anything at this stage being a modular hull. Btw go the two 054A frigates!!! Wooohooo hope they are the real thing, two ships built side by side and so far with some hull similarities with 054, this looks like it could be the real deal.

tphuang
06-23-2006, 06:35 PM
hey Chicket9, they are saying that this one hull but split into two parts. So, they are taking the modular approach.

Anyhow, some 051C picture. Apparently new, not sure 115 or 116
Any guesses on when it might enter the northern fleet?
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2420/051cjun230cc.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7002/051cjun2325bp.jpg

Roger604
06-24-2006, 06:36 PM
Is this the JL-1 or the JL-2? I've seen pics of the JL-1, but they have black stripes, this one is red.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8880/134256192006062412073421745500.jpg

Sea Dog
06-24-2006, 10:53 PM
Looks like a JL-1 to me. It's size and shape are why I say this. I'm not sure that JL-2 is ready yet.

swimmerXC
06-25-2006, 02:21 AM
I think that first pic of the 51C is not new... the second one is
That's a JL-1.. JL-2 would have a bigger nose and would be bigger overall because it'll carry MIRV and have greater range
...
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/51/pak620066zx.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1882/ship625069si.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1585/138618067gt.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2360/101124063lk.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5407/115625060zp.jpg

swimmerXC
06-26-2006, 06:54 AM
People from China Military say this is newest pictures of Varyag... look at the 51C to verify :china:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4558/varyag626060ii.jpg

tphuang
06-26-2006, 10:35 AM
There is another one with this, just the enlargement of the bottom part. I guess with a clearer view of the two 051Cs. It looks like they are finally both ready for action!
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1228/051cjun261hn.jpg

swimmerXC
06-27-2006, 09:20 PM
East Fleet Base... Brass of PLAN (Commander of the PLA Navy, Alternate Member of the 16th CPC Central Committee, Member of the CPC Central Military Commission; Member Central Military Commission of the PRC)
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4527/eastseabase62606b6hu.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9325/eastseabase62606c1ox.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6746/eastseabase62606e5si.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/725/eastseabase62606f5dc.jpg
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/7471/commanderoftheplanavy5vg.jpg

tphuang
06-28-2006, 02:04 AM
328 - minesweeper?
appears in JiangNan
http://www.cjdby.net/UploadFile/2006-6/200662721175148891.jpg
http://www.cjdby.net/UploadFile/2006-6/200662721185166576.jpg
http://www.cjdby.net/UploadFile/2006-6/200662721193821238.jpg
http://www.cjdby.net/UploadFile/2006-6/200662721212031149.jpg

tphuang
06-29-2006, 01:04 AM
more, type 71 LPD, supposedly. Any idea on this, guys?
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/8254/071jun291cz.jpg

swimmerXC
06-29-2006, 05:58 PM
937, Close up 51C
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3223/937629061yq.jpg
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/1269/93762906a7ij.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1655/51c62706c1gy.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/647/51c62706a9hh.jpg

swimmerXC
06-30-2006, 10:29 AM
WTF is this...?
55 meters long... 14 meters wide
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7476/jump4mq.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3033/jumpa9ph.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8504/jumpb4ly.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9585/jumpd3xk.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9164/umpc8ge.jpg

planeman
06-30-2006, 03:04 PM
As per my other post, it's either a dredger or maybe a crane on a barge. There are no military implications.

swimmerXC
07-01-2006, 08:43 PM
Too big, going to make another one.
Closing thread.