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    Nice helos, hopefully we will see soon a medium lift helo in PLA service they need them, something in the range of the Blackhawk or AW149

    I have no idea why Turkey bought additional S-70 Blackhawks worth $3.5 billion!! when Agustawestland was offering co-production of the AW149 which would have meant Turkey would have property rights and technology transfer, with design and manufacturing autonomy so they could sell to rich middleastern countrys is well or to any other 3rd party countrys, with T-70 they cant do that

    sometimes military sales are not requirment influenced by political

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    Nice video of the Z-19. Another one shows up then a Z-9, then I think a Hip, then a S-70 shows up. The cherry on top would've been a WZ-10.

    The Z-19 would look way cooler with a chain gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssassinsMace View Post
    The Z-19 would look way cooler with a chain gun.
    If you are close enough to the enemy to use your cannon, they can use theirs right back at you.

    The Z19 is a light scout helo, and I very much doubt it has the armor to even withstand sustained HMG attack. Typically, the Z19 will be staying well outside of 20 or 30mm range, and will be carrying HJ8/9s or MLR pods for the odd target of opportunity that presents itself, but it is not an attack helo and would be punished if used as such.

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    A heavy chain gun isn't a good idea for a light and fast scout helicopter. Perhaps some form of removable gun pod like those available for the Mi24 and Ka50/52 would suffice. The Gazelle, Kiowa and Scout have proven successful in combat without a gun and the German version of the Tiger doesn't have one fitted as standard.

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    The Germans were not happy with the French made GIAT 30 on the Tiger. they were supposed too be refitted with the RMK 30. The Z19 is not a tiger though. the more I see of it the more I am Reminded of the Japanese OH1. Now I am not saying It's a Chinese clone But rather that They might have decided too adopt a similar solution too the need of a dedicated scout. Yes they have the Z9 but as she is based on a medium lift platform better suited too SAR, Transport, and ASW.

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    Actually, I see the development path of the Z19 to be far more similar to that of the AH1 than any didicated scout. Just as the AH1 is an UH1 stripped down to the core and remodelled for minimum profile and using the weight savings to add armor and weapons, the Z19 is a Z9 similarly stripped down and repurposed.

    The obvious difference is that with the AH1, the goal was to create a gunship, whereas HAC was tasked with developing an armed scout.

    Had they wanted to, they could have added a chain gun and heavier hard points to make it into a gunship like the Indians did with their LAH, but it would have been a compromise and decidedly second rate since the airframe simply lacked the protection, mobility and firepower to be an effective dedicated attack helo, yet the added weight from trying to make it so would also make it a second rate scout.

    China already had the Z10, so there was no point in duplicating the effort, especially at such late stage in the game. Even if there was no Z10 I would still still think it would have been better to start with a clear slate and design a new dedicated attack helo from the ground up instead of modding a transport.
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    With clean pics now become available it's evident that the Z-19 is a heavily stripped-down version of Z-9, a similar evolution path that made the AH-1 took, though it's envisioned to fit a role similar to Japan's OH-1, primary as scouts but with a degree of attack capabilities.

    Still, it'd be better that the camera turret is mounted on top of the main rotor, not at the nose...however, one things at a time I think.

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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    With no chain gun what exactly is the role of WZ19?

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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    Quote Originally Posted by asif iqbal View Post
    With no chain gun what exactly is the role of WZ19?
    No nose gun but there is the option of mounting one on one of the wing pylons I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asif iqbal View Post
    With no chain gun what exactly is the role of WZ19?
    Machine gun pods?

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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    there's article early 2000,claim that China in 1994 barrow PAF AH-1 cobra for technical evalation.did design letout influence Z-19? har to said..
    during the early 70's Chinese people magazine feature a black and white photo of vietcong personal inspecting shoot down AH-1. and during early 80's there's report that US provide technical data for AH-1 to china.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardware View Post
    there's article early 2000,claim that China in 1994 barrow PAF AH-1 cobra for technical evalation.did design letout influence Z-19? har to said..
    during the early 70's Chinese people magazine feature a black and white photo of vietcong personal inspecting shoot down AH-1. and during early 80's there's report that US provide technical data for AH-1 to china.
    Please use proper English

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