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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    Quote Originally Posted by CottageLV View Post
    LOL, this is not that big a deal. Emerging major powers learn from the established. It's no rocket science and neither do you have to be Astrodamus to predict that China will develop these things. In fact it is a necessity in stead of just being favorable for China to possess these technologies.

    Those of you that are Chinese or read Chinese probably understand what I'm saying. The netizens on Chinese military sites are overly nationalistic and are daydreaming about a lot of things. In fact they are crazy enough to say that a lot of non-existent projects and weapons to exist. Many of you probably have heard of bullshit rumours of fighter jets named successively from J-12 to J-20, even crazy CG artworks are made up to support these to "prove it".

    I'm not saying these are all made up, but majority of confirmations are just simply coincidences. For example, artworks of the J20 were out years before its appearance in Chengdu. There were hundreds of variations. You can tell these were simply done by amateur fanboys fantasizing. Like we all have agreed before, doesn't matter how innovative you are or how advanced a firm may be, there are only few mature designs that you can really use. Therefore it's a mere coincidence that these fantasies coincided with the actual jet.

    I'm sure 99.99999999999% of these people aren't in the military industry complex, but rather a 20 years old writing fantasy posts from his college dorm.
    you are correct, most of blogger are overly chest tamping nationalistic,that's why you needed to cross check there article.
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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    is mast mounted MMW radar same use Tank Active defence System?

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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    Quote Originally Posted by challenge View Post
    you are correct, most of blogger are overly chest tamping nationalistic,that's why you needed to cross check there article.
    Indeed, it makes people hard to read their stuff, because you gonna cut through all those crap before you can read something - or anything - technical.

    Let's think of it as a slab of meat, even if it's a 16oz. steak you'd ended up cutting away 14oz worth of useless fat...

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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    From the current picture that we have, it looks like that this helicopter does not have cannons like the one for WZ-10 and other attack helicopter. Do you think that we this current design, they are able to fit it with 20 ~30 mm cannon?

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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    WZ-19 may be capable of hauling a nose slung cannon, but that'll make it heavier etc. WZ-19 is meant to be a light armed scout (TOW 4.5 tons) like kawasaki OH-1 but probably will be operated like AH-1 as it'll replace current WZ-9 attack choppers. WZ-10 will be more like the eurocopter, rather than the AH-1 class, and be the Type 99 to the Type 96.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwryum View Post
    indeed, it makes people hard to read their stuff, because you gonna cut through all those crap before you can read something - or anything - technical.

    Let's think of it as a slab of meat, even if it's a 16oz. Steak you'd ended up cutting away 14oz worth of useless fat...
    fat = flavor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bltizo View Post
    WZ-19 may be capable of hauling a nose slung cannon, but that'll make it heavier etc. WZ-19 is meant to be a light armed scout (TOW 4.5 tons) like kawasaki OH-1 but probably will be operated like AH-1 as it'll replace current WZ-9 attack choppers. WZ-10 will be more like the eurocopter, rather than the AH-1 class, and be the Type 99 to the Type 96.
    WZ-10 is eurocopter Tiger.
    WZ-19 is ARH/ Kiowas.

    hence in ball on the mast.

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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    Quote Originally Posted by i.e. View Post
    WZ-10 is eurocopter Tiger.
    WZ-19 is ARH/ Kiowas.

    hence in ball on the mast.
    No WZ-19 has been observed with a mast mounted anything (or WZ-10 either as a matter of fact).
    And I imagine with its four hardpoints WZ-19 will act as a light attack chopper as well as armed recon. TOW of 4.5 tons seems way too big to call kiowa or ARH :O
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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    Quote Originally Posted by i.e. View Post
    fat = flavor![COLOR="Silver"]
    Oh c'mon...unless you never do any kind of cooking, or merely live on McD diet, you should know what I'm implying...

    Right, that's enough off-topic from me.

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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    Quote Originally Posted by Bltizo View Post
    No WZ-19 has been observed with a mast mounted anything (or WZ-10 either as a matter of fact).
    And I imagine with its four hardpoints WZ-19 will act as a light attack chopper as well as armed recon. TOW of 4.5 tons seems way too big to call kiowa or ARH :O
    Sorry, I thought the mast mounted ball on Z-9 passed its testing and shifted onto the WZ-19 already.

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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    Z-9 with mast-mounted radar.



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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    Nah, this is not z-19, rather a z-9 with mast-mounted radar

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    Re: Z-19, the new attack helicopter

    Quote Originally Posted by victtodd View Post
    Nah, this is not z-19, rather a z-9 with mast-mounted radar
    Z9 has been a test bed for many of the weapons now fitted to WZ10 and WZ19, China has learnt a great deal from Z9 helicopters and it makes integration of these systems on new attack helos much easier

    guess we can wait for this type of radar to appear on WZ10 and WZ19 soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by victtodd View Post
    Nah, this is not z-19, rather a z-9 with mast-mounted radar
    thanks i fix it.

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