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lilzz

recent news has popped again that, Russia is willing to let CHina have the Tu-22 Bomber license production. Does China still has a need for the TU-22 old bomber?

Maybe China would just copy the airframe and use its own engines and avionics.

Also put the balance beam radar underneath the belly of plane, voila, then it would become a supersonic bomber/AWACS /w BVR missiles for self defense.
It's combo of speed, big radar, and BVR should make it very capable of defending against interceptors.

It's still a serious threat against most Navy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhj8ITvp-pw

kliu0

Look if the Tu-22 Bomber still poses a threat, why not produce more? The more they produce the more technogically advanced they become in producing bombers. They can upgrade them and develop their own bombers to be superior than that of the Russians. Russia still needs more money anyway.

steven_master

Source?

lilzz

I ran across a chinese article mentions that couple days ago. I couldn' locate where it's now.

awhile ago, Russia offered china the TU-22 M from its existing fleet, but CHina is not interested in the old frames and the Russia already stop its production.

It would only make sense if China can license produce the new frame and add its own weapons, engines and avionics.

optionsss

Then why not just make one from scratch, if you want to use indigenous parts, using a old frame only add constraints, and it does not make the project any easier.

bd popeye

Hate to burst your bubble ..but this combination you described may be lethal.

Numerous electronic emissions can set off the fuzes in many munitions. Many. Extensive R&D would have to be done to determine which munitions would be safe to load in the aircraft described.

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Pointblank

Furthermore, on station time and range would be atrocious on a supersonic platform...

crobato

I would rather prefer that China license the Tu-95s for use as long range patrol and surveillance aircraft. Superior station and loiter time.

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lilzz

I think the key for activation is very frequency dependent. Specific frequency +sequence will make each case unique , won't causing false triggering.

lilzz

First priority would be long range strike platform /wo refueling. It's huge balance beam radar is more as advantage against interceptors or fighter planes.

Pointblank

You can't just slap a radar onto an aircraft and fly it... it requires major testing, systems checks and debugging in order to get any new electronics to work on an aircraft. Interference from a variety of sources both known and unknown can cause a lot of headaches as they could interfere with other systems, including weapons. Furthermore, there needs to be testing in a variety of environments to ensure that all systems work as functioned.

I present you with case one of avionics modernization, where a complete suite of avionics on a well understood aircraft was heavily upgraded:

The Canadian Forces CC130 Avionics Upgrade Program

challenge

according back issue of kanwa, Russia did offer to sold retire and older model of backfire bomber to CHina,the money in turn will finance the development next generation of bomber.
But PLAAF official after inspecting the aircraft, claim high maintainance cost,second, a lot of spare part no longer in production,and have to be special order which will undoubly drive up the cost.
In the end the plan was abandone.

lilzz

Since the russian is not making anymore of this plane, I don't see why they wouldn't share the design /w CHina or license produce.

China can improve upon this, granted it will have some work to integrate it own components and engines. It's speed resembles a fighter. It's size gives it the long range and ample of munitions. It's balance beam radar give it the AWAC ability, capable of detecting stealth maybe.. Adding BVR air-to air missile. No fighter planes can even get close to it.

This will give CHina a superior platform against some of the proacher countries in the South China Sea . It can subsitute for lacking of aircraft carrier for the time being.

yehe

Really I don't see what the Tu22 can do and a SU30MKK or the J11B can't, China should just make a modified J11B into a bomber like Su34.

lilzz

J11B is not big enough carry a balance beam radar. Its range is not as far as the TU-22.