Reply With Quotethat famous AVIC chart with SAC 'something' in fullness
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This is a discussion on PLAAF Rumours and Speculation (And sources to go to for R and S) within the Air Force forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; New thread hopefully to put the OT posts from the AESA thread. -------------- But also, I hope this thread will ...
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New thread hopefully to put the OT posts from the AESA thread.
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But also, I hope this thread will act as a go-to place for people (who can't read chinese) but who want to get up to date with the rumors and speculation going on, and which sources to trust and which to not.
Like, post links to pages which are fairly reliable (hopefully in english), and also posters on this forum or other forums who are and we'll have a discussion on how reliable they are etc so new members can get acquintaned and familiar.
For example, the most obvious place I can think of is Huitong's site: http://cnair.top81.cn/
Over at CDF =GT is a reliable poster and for me broke the first definite news about the J-20 late last year, pasting a paragraph with lots of deatils about the J-20s cockpit, paintscheme, nose probe, etc. Pinko at Key Forums is good as well.
What do you guys think of the idea of listing reliable posters/sites? It may get a little personal, due to inevitable debate over validity of sources but I think we need a definite list to rely on, espicially with all these new PLAAF developments going on.
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that famous AVIC chart with SAC 'something' in fullness
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Well, it doesn't mention SAC specifically, but that "strategic bomber" does seem interesting.Originally Posted by flateric
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Sorry - since I can't read Chinese - but which one is that "strategic bomber" ?
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It's the one directly below the circled "4th gen fighter".
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A strategic bomber by definition is a very large, heavy, long range aircraft. Wonder if this will turn out to be real or a pipe-dream? Also what's the JH-7 above the circled mystery aircraft and J-10A?
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That's not the JH-7, that's the JF-17 prototype (before it got DSI intakes).
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The bomber might not be to scale (the airliners certainly aren't).
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That's a JF-17, and the circled aircraft is the J-20. The mystery "strategic bomber" is below it.
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The color code is interesting.
Note, the yellow J-10A is after gray J-10B, and then there is a line-art J-10B "first flight".
My guess:
Green means production.
Yellow means first flight.
Gray means "project started".
Line-art means future.
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Personally, I find the "high altitude, long range, anti stealth-aircraft unmanned aerial vehicle" to be the most interesting.
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I think yellow is production. Nonetheless, why are their multiple types of each aircraft. For example, why are there several J-11BSs. I can't read chinese
Edit: Looking at it closer, I can't find any pattern to the colors.
Last edited by Centrist; 01-20-2011 at 07:29 PM.
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It's not a strategic bomber.
People are saying it's the 5th-gen fighter-bomber under development at SAC (maiden flight around mid-2011). But again, the design might be different.
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They signify different stages of development. Take the J-11BS for example, the first just says J-11BS, which I presume to mean the start of the program. The second says first flight, and the third says something like final configuration, which means it's set for serial production.
I'm just reading what it says in the chart. It says, word for word, "strategic bomber".
I find that pretty interesting as well. According to the chart it's also already had its first flight, and it's set to be certified right around now.
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One of the J-11BS was the first flight prototype and the other is the final production variant.
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