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This is a discussion on PLAAF Munitions within the Air Force forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by no_name Is the red part a bomb or some sort of unguided rocket? The red part is ...

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    Re: PLAAF precision guided munitions

    Quote Originally Posted by no_name View Post
    Is the red part a bomb or some sort of unguided rocket?
    The red part is the bomb itself.

    Looks like a chinese SDB type weapon. Though there was the LS-6 100 and 50 kg versions at last zhuhai of course, they only featured strakes rather than SDB style fold out wings. Interesting that this bomb, whatever it is, is featuring potato masher type tails like the R-77.

    But this pic is a few years old and we've not heard anymore from it since. Personally I'd like to see the EO guided LS-6 to be attached with SDB wings, which should substantially increase its range -- it already has satellite and EO guidance anyway, just give it some longer legs.
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    Re: PLAAF precision guided munitions

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    Will you please make some comments next time. The last two pictures are not PGMs.
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    Question weaponry

    Given the PLA airforce affection for high velocity (unguided) air-to-ground rockets in different calibers.

    In the west several producers of high velocity air-to-ground rockets have developped guided (TV) versions of their 70mm rockets; is there a similar programme for China airforce?
    (80mm rocket and larger should offer more space for such modification and maintain a credible warhead over similar 70mm rockets)

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    Re: weaponry

    Quote Originally Posted by pendragon View Post
    Given the PLA airforce affection for high velocity (unguided) air-to-ground rockets in different calibers.

    In the west several producers of high velocity air-to-ground rockets have developped guided (TV) versions of their 70mm rockets; is there a similar programme for China airforce?
    (80mm rocket and larger should offer more space for such modification and maintain a credible warhead over similar 70mm rockets)
    I remember reading a report describing Chinese rockets with TV guidance but the rockets are truck launched.

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    Re: weaponry

    I think yo might be referring to the Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System (APKWS II) which is a laser guided, not TV 70mm missile that is compatible with existing Hydra 70 unguided rocket systems. According to Wikipedia, it's just achieved IOC with the USMC.

    As I understand it, the APKWS II uses the same laser seeker as the Hellfire mated with control vanes to achieve high accuracy, at lower cost and smaller blast impact.

    Something similar would of great use to the PLAAF / PLANAF

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    Re: weaponry

    Yes, I am aware of the existence of the laser guided version.
    But this wa as short article about Tv guided rockets with less hot-probability, but cheaper and with true fire-and-forget specs.

    And no, sorry, but no I didn't save the article.

    btw Kongsberg (Sweden) offers similar guided rockets

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    Re: weaponry

    Quote Originally Posted by pendragon View Post
    Yes, I am aware of the existence of the laser guided version.
    But this wa as short article about Tv guided rockets with less hot-probability, but cheaper and with true fire-and-forget specs.

    And no, sorry, but no I didn't save the article.

    btw Kongsberg (Sweden) offers similar guided rockets
    Correction: Kongsberg is located in the town with that name 80 km West of the Norse capital Oslo.

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    Re: PLAAF Munitions

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    Re: weaponry

    Quote Originally Posted by pendragon View Post
    Given the PLA airforce affection for high velocity (unguided) air-to-ground rockets in different calibers.

    In the west several producers of high velocity air-to-ground rockets have developped guided (TV) versions of their 70mm rockets; is there a similar programme for China airforce?
    (80mm rocket and larger should offer more space for such modification and maintain a credible warhead over similar 70mm rockets)
    I don't recall reading anything about that for the PLAAF. However, as the S-8/S-13/S-25 are Russian rockets, it's entirely possible that the PLAAF can import the Kor variants for the S-8 and S-13 rockets. The Kor designation is for S-5/S-8/S-13 rockets which have been modified to be laser and optically guided in accordance with the Ugroza weapons system. The Russians have been 'working' on that system for some time now, though I don't recall reading any updates as of late. From the report I have read, the Kor guidance system is accurate to about 1.8 m (i.e. CEP accuracy of 1.8 m).

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    Re: weaponry

    Sorry Delft, my mistake Kongsberg = Norway !
    how could I forget (Kongsberg's remington 1911 model is a famous collector item)
    mea culpa !

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    Re: PLAAF Munitions

    世界军事论坛 - CM-802AKG 图太猛了!
    according to new data for C-802CMK air to ground missile.
    the 22o km range cruise missile uses thermal sight rather than radar. the target were preprogrammed,using DSMC to select the target.
    the missile flight path are also pre- program , to confuse or decive the air defense ,also it was fitted with data link,this allow"man-on-the-loop" capability. image obtain by the camera can automatically down link to missile operator.
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    Re: PLAAF Munitions

    How common this type of LDGP are in PLAAF?
    250kg Low-Drag General-Purpose Bomb - SinoDefence.com

    I remember seeing only few pics of J-10's dropping them, but I would assume those are quite common weaponry... no?

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    Re: PLAAF Munitions

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    How common this type of LDGP are in PLAAF?
    250kg Low-Drag General-Purpose Bomb - SinoDefence.com

    I remember seeing only few pics of J-10's dropping them, but I would assume those are quite common weaponry... no?
    Common, JH7 carries them too, even J8II has demonstrated carrying them. They are not, however, carried by H6.

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    Re: PLAAF Munitions

    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli View Post
    How common this type of LDGP are in PLAAF?
    250kg Low-Drag General-Purpose Bomb - SinoDefence.com

    I remember seeing only few pics of J-10's dropping them, but I would assume those are quite common weaponry... no?
    The PLA actually needs boatloads of budget for modernization to replace decades-old equipment which simply translates to China threat by CNN, BBC, WSJ, Economist, etc. The army has it the worst though compared to the airforce and navy.

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