Offical media: Chinese new aerotransport "Yun-9" will be operational soon.

The article says that the new aerotransport is comparable to American C-103.

I think you mean C-130.

For comparison sake whta are the sataticis of this "new" aircraft?

i will try to translate it.

主要参数

货舱长度16.2m
interior(cargo compartment) length: 16.2

货舱宽度3.2m
interior(cargo compartment) width: 3.2

货舱高度2.3m
interior(cargo compartment) height: 2.3

货舱容积155m3
interior(cargo compartment) volume: 155

最大起飞重量65t
max takeoff weight: 65
最大着陆重量65t
max landing weight: 65
最大商载20t
max comerical payload: 20
最大载油量23t

最大航程5000km
max range: 5000

最大平飞速度570km/h
max speed: 570

巡航速度550km/h
cruise speed: 550

巡航高度8000m
cruise height: 8000

实用升限10100m
max height: 10100

起飞滑跑距离1350m
takeoff distance: 1350

着陆滑跑距离1350m
landing distance: 1350m

运送人员时，可搭载106名武装士兵；用于救护任务时，可搭载72名重伤员，外加3名医护人员，或可运送1 06名轻伤员。
it can carry 106 fully armored troops; or 72 heavyly injured personr with 3 medical staff,; or 106 light injured.

最多空降武装伞兵98人
it can also airdrop 98 air troopers

Spec:

* Crew: 4-6

* Capacity: 103 passengers or 98 airborne troops or 72 litter patients with 3 medical personnel

* Payload: 20,000 kg

* Internal length: 16.2 m

* Internal height: 2.3 m

* Internal width: 3.2 m

* Max internal space: 155 m3

* Max fuel load: 23,000 kg

* Max takeoff weight: 65,000 kg

* Maximum speed: 570 km/h

* Cruise speed: 550 km/h

* Range: 5,000 km

* Take off/landing Length : 1,350 m

Thanks for those stats guys!

It does match up well with the C-130>>> on paper. I have to wonder will it have the realiblity & longevity of the vernable Hurcules?? Only time will tell. The C-130 has beeen around since 1956....

Originally Posted by bd popeye

Thanks for those stats guys!

It does match up well with the C-130>>> on paper. I have to wonder will it have the realiblity & longevity of the vernable Hurcules?? Only time will tell. The C-130 has beeen around since 1956....

yeah, the thing is that this plane is not even in service yet, in fact, hasn't even flied yet. It's hard to compare it to something proven like C-130J. However, even if it's not the best transport platform, it could be quite useful in its roles as the platform to use for the different EW roles like AEW, ECM, Elint and such. Maybe, they will even use it as oil tanker instead of H-6U in the future.

No prototype has flown yet?..Jeez..I'm disapointed. And at the same time not surprised. As far as any news comming from the PLA about new equipmnet and technology we have to maintain a wait and see attidude. otherwise we will be disapointed.

The article says the new aerotransport will be "finalized and handover(近期定型并将交付部队)" to PLA soon.

I am indeed surprised by the news. But its quite logical that Chinese had already successfully developped an even more advanced aerotransport the "Yun-10" in 1980s. But the project was dropped by Deng Xiaoping. Such decision was considered as one of the worst failure in Chinese defence history.

Since Hu become the president, he proposed to relanuched that project and just few days ago I read a news from Xinhua news agent (the CCP's own news agent) that the "demostration phase of a large aerotransport has been conducted".

I think PLA still have the "Yun-10" design somewhere, they claimed the "Yun-10" as one of the most advanced aerotransport in 1980 era.

Originally Posted by aikea

The article says the new aerotransport will be "finalized and handover(近期定型并将交付部队)" to PLA soon.

I am indeed surprised by the news. But its quite logical that Chinese had already successfully developped an even more advanced aerotransport the "Yun-10" in 1980s. But the project was dropped by Deng Xiaoping. Such decision was considered as one of the worst failure in Chinese defence history.

Since Hu become the president, he proposed to relanuched that project and just few days ago I read a news from Xinhua news agent (the CCP's own news agent) that the "demostration phase of a large aerotransport has been conducted".

I think PLA still have the "Yun-10" design somewhere, they claimed the "Yun-10" as one of the most advanced aerotransport in 1980 era.

That's not surprising, considering in the 70s I think China managed to build a working prototype of a B707 type jet airliner. I guess China decided the vast resources needed to make these large air transport commercially viable could be better used elsewhere. One has to remember most of Deng's era was in the honeymoon period with US, so there was much less need for large defence spendings & of course, the resources available then were much less than what they have today.

.....Yep, I've already spotted it, I was looking for something AN-70ish, but this seems like a baby AN-70. I doubt I'll find something comparable though. That AN-70 will put down a 20 ton cargo on a 600 meter strip on it's "Max STOL" configuration. And transport much larger loads on regular runways, up to 60 tons! That's hard to beat performance......

Originally Posted by aikea

The article says the new aerotransport will be "finalized and handover(近期定型并将交付部队)" to PLA soon.

I am indeed surprised by the news. But its quite logical that Chinese had already successfully developped an even more advanced aerotransport the "Yun-10" in 1980s. But the project was dropped by Deng Xiaoping. Such decision was considered as one of the worst failure in Chinese defence history.

Since Hu become the president, he proposed to relanuched that project and just few days ago I read a news from Xinhua news agent (the CCP's own news agent) that the "demostration phase of a large aerotransport has been conducted".

I think PLA still have the "Yun-10" design somewhere, they claimed the "Yun-10" as one of the most advanced aerotransport in 1980 era.

larger doesn't really mean more advanced. Y-9 should be far more advanced in terms of reliability, maintenance, avionics, material used, fuel efficiency, range and such than Y-10.

anyhow, this is what I was trying to find.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...into-2007.html

China's Shaanxi Aircraft has delayed until next year the first flight of its Y-9 transport, which boasts several improvements over its current Y-8 turboprop. The Y-8 is heavily based on the Soviet-era Antonov An-12 Cub.

"Originally we planned to have the first flight by the end of this year, but now we are making some small changes so the first flight has been delayed," says a company source.

Shaanxi says the stretched Y-9 will have new avionics, Chinese-built Wojiang WJ-6 engines, a 20t payload and a range of up to 5,800km (3,130nm).

from huitong's site for range:
"Some specifications: max TO weight 65t, max payload 20t or 106 paratroopers, 15t payload range 2,200km, max level speed 650km/h, cruise speed 550km/h, service ceiling 10,100m, cruise altitude 8,000m"

comparing this to C-130:
http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=92

Cargo Compartment:
C-130E/H/J: length, 40 feet (12.31 meters); width, 119 inches (3.12 meters); height, 9 feet (2.74 meters). Rear ramp: length, 123 inches (3.12 meters); width, 119 inches (3.02 meters)
C-130J-30: length, 55 feet (16.9 meters); width, 119 inches (3.12 meters); height, 9 feet (2.74 meters). Rear ramp: length, 123 inches (3.12 meters); width, 119 inches (3.02 meters)
Speed:
C-130E: 345 mph/300 ktas (Mach 0.49) at 20,000 feet (6,060 meters)
C-130H: 366 mph/318 ktas (Mach 0.52) at 20,000 feet (6,060 meters)
C-130J: 417 mph/362 ktas (Mach 0.59) at 22,000 feet (6,706 meters)
C-130J-30: 410 mph/356 ktas (Mach 0.58) at 22,000 feet (6,706 meters)
Ceiling:
C-130J: 28,000 feet (8,615 meters) with 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms) payload
C-130J-30: 26,000 feet (8,000 meters) with 44,500 pounds (20,227 kilograms) payload.
C-130H: 23,000 feet (7,077 meters) with 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms) payload.
C-130E: 19,000 feet (5,846 meters) with 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms) payload
Maximum Takeoff Weight:
C-130E/H/J: 155,000 pounds (69,750 kilograms)
C-130J-30: 164,000 pounds (74,393 kilograms)
Maximum Allowable Payload:
C-130E, 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms)
C-130H, 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms)
C-130J, 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms)
C-130J-30, 44,000 (19,958 kilograms)
Maximum Normal Payload:
C-130E, 36,500 pounds (16,590 kilograms)
C-130H, 36,500 pounds (16,590 kilograms)
C-130J, 34,000 pounds (15,422 kilograms)
C-130J-30, 36,000 pounds (16,329 kilograms)
Range at Maximum Normal Payload:
C-130E, 1,150 miles (1,000 nautical miles)
C-130H, 1,208 miles (1,050 nautical miles)
C-130J, 2,071 miles (1,800 nautical miles)
C-130J-30, 1,956 miles (1,700 nautical miles)
Range with 35,000 pounds of Payload:
C-130E, 1,438 miles (1,250 nautical miles)
C-130H, 1,496 miles (1,300 nautical miles)
C-130J, 1,841 miles (1,600 nautical miles)
C-130J-30, 2,417 miles (2,100 nautical miles)
Maximum Load:
C-130E/H/J: 6 pallets or 74 litters or 16 CDS bundles or 92 combat troops or 64 paratroopers, or a combination of any of these up to the cargo compartment capacity or maximum allowable weight.
C-130J-30: 8 pallets or 97 litters or 24 CDS bundles or 128 combat troops or 92 paratroopers, or a combination of any of these up to the cargo compartment capacity or maximum allowable weight.