This is a discussion on New JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread!!! within the Air Force forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by vesicles The question is whether China allows such close interaction with a foreign nation. Having numerous foreigners ...
Avic and its subsidiaries are teaming up with top notch western suppliers on nearly all if not all of its subsystems, on a whole host of projects (MA600, MA700, ARJ21, C919, etc etc) . Honeywell, Rockwell-Collins, Parker, Liberhiler, Moog, list goes on and on.
not only that, people from OEMs such as AB and Boeing and Bombardier are all over their contracting projects (empennage, doors, fueslage) all over AVIC facilities, most of which support some military contracts.
How do you think they interact each and every day?
Last edited by vesicles; 05-04-2012 at 03:08 PM.
JF17 06 working on strike capabilities.
I bet J-10B is far more adavnced than Blk 52 even better than Blk 60 while China own P3C http://cnair.top81.cn/surveillance/GX-6a.jpg is under go testing... Chinese PL-12 to AIM-120..
So the anything the west sold to Pakistan is comparable in Chinese inventory or lower. They will not sell something out of extraordinary
With Pakistan having a all weather relationship with China. Chances of Pakistan leaking secret to west is much much lower.
Last edited by Lion; 05-04-2012 at 10:34 PM.
first, Israel gets weapons based on its politcal leverage, NOT because Western countrys "trust" Israel, infact many in the West do not want to give weapons to Israel, when US military cargo plane landed in December 2008 at Prestwick airport in Scotland to refuel, it was carrying 5,000 lb bunker busting bombs, Alex Salmond First Minister of Scotland clearly said that if Scotland was independent this would never happen and protesters from all over Scotland came to the airport to demonstrate
no govermennt supports Israel, but Israel has powerful lobbys which allow it to get weapons
second, "Pakistan also politically drifts between China and the West all the time" do you usually just give out personal baseless opinions or do you have any evidence to back up ur claims??
and finally Uncle Sam has and will sell advanced weapons to Pakistan, a prime example is the delivery of the 40 x F16 A/B Block 15 to PAF between 1983 and 1985, only the 2nd nation after Israel to get such a modern plane, even before Turkey
and sale of F86 Sabres and F104 Starfighters during 1960s, infact the weapons package for Pakistan before the outbreak of the 1965 war included F4 Phantoms, F5 Tigers and C130 Cargo planes, the reason Pakistan didnt get them was because they were used against India not because of the threat of secrets beings sold to China
and even today we got F16 C/D Block 52+ with a massive weapons package which includes Aim-120C and Aim-9L, the same as what Greece, Turkey and Poland operate
if PAF wanted F16 E/F Block 60 they would have asked, but they didnt, PAF requirment was for Block 52+
Last edited by asif iqbal; 05-05-2012 at 08:56 AM.
NOw is totally a different times, If PAF is interested in F-35, P-8 Poisedon and AIM-120D and even has the money. I am 100% sure, USA will reject that idea.
As I say, F-16 blk 52 or even Blk 60 are not something beyond what China is capable to produced. There is not much value for China to RE. Same as the AIM-120C and P3C Orion. China has all the similiar or better in our inventory.
Last edited by Lion; 05-05-2012 at 11:11 AM.
Israel's influence extends beyond the west, where it actively bribed the Russians in not selling Iran the S-300 Surface-to-Air Missile defense systems. In fact, Russia restrained from selling the S-300s to Iran, once Israel agreed to sell Russia, it's most advance UAV systems in exchange.
The only thing in Pakistan, that China wouldn't trust, is the same thing which Pakistanis themselves don't trust either. And that is the utterly corrupt, decadent and traitorous government of Zardari.Pakistan, however, is a lot more independent and collaborate with both the West and China. Pakistan also politically drifts between China and the West all the time. So China is much more suspicious of Pakistan than the West for Israel. All it takes is a double-agent/expert from Pakistan to expose everything China is doing to the West. Isn't it what some fellow posters suggested China should do? Someone here suggested that China should send people to Pakistan to steal Western tech. Some people even suggested this is potentially how China got some of the more advanced tech... Why would the West not do the same if Pakistan collaborates with China so extensively?
China's military has a very close and cooperative relationship with Pakistan's military. It is in this realm, the military-to-military one, that China and Pakistan's relationship has developed into a strong and robust alliance. One only waits for when true, loyal and patriotic Pakistanis to over the leadership of Pakistan. That is when people-to-people, business-to-business and government-to-government ties will flourish between the Pakistanis and Chinese.
Just read the news in Khmer language that there were two fighters jet collision when taking off which led to at least one pilot dead. The accident happened on the 17 May, 10:20am. Though it did not confirm the type of the aircraft but photos of the wreckage suggest that it was the JF-17.
Can anyone find more info on this?
Fighter Jets Collision in Pakistan
Those were single-engined propeller driven training aircraft. Most unfortunate that this happened.
But the pictures at the link show a wreckage with what looks
like jet nozzle.
Hi! I was wondering if the new specs released in dubai airshow presentation have been posted on this forum? If not , i will post the video and the photoshots depicting the specs
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Pakistan Aeronautical Complex is scheduled to be completed within next twelve months. --- this is a couple of years old news ..sorry cant post links at the moment , however after its completion some of the responsibilities of kamra would hopefully be shared by nawabshah
Last edited by ANTIBODY; 05-18-2012 at 11:45 AM.