New J-10 Thread III

[FriedRiceNSpice]

As to the use of DSI in the F-35, it's better than using the variable intake since the designers don't have access to F-22 intake's technology?

Are you aware that both aircraft are made by Lockheed Martin? Once again, there is nothing special about the F-22's inlets at all. Anyone can make inlets like that. Fixed intakes are the oldest design there are.

[Quickie]

Are you aware that both aircraft are made by Lockheed Martin? Once again, there is nothing special about the F-22's inlets at all. Anyone can make inlets like that. Fixed intakes are the oldest design there are.

If that's the case, how does the F-22's engine handle the high pressure in the intake when flying at supersonic speed, since a Fixed intake will not be able to control the inlet air-flow - something which the variable intake or the DSI intake would be able to handle? Furthermore, I tend to think that the F-35 is meant to be marketed among member countries, whereas the U.S. seem to keep the more capable F-22 just for themselves.

[FriedRiceNSpice]

If that's the case, how does the F-22's engine handle the high pressure in the intake when flying at supersonic speed, since a Fixed intake will not be able to control the inlet air-flow - something which the variable intake or the DSI intake would be able to handle? Furthermore, I tend to think that the F-35 is meant to be marketed among member countries, whereas the U.S. seem to keep the more capable F-22 just for themselves.

The F-16 has fixed intakes. Fixed intakes leads to compromised performance and fuel efficiency at higher speeds. Since DSI was not available at the time, Lockheed was forced to choose conventional intakes, but not by choice. This is why most aviation sources do not think the F-22 cannot achieve speeds over Mach 2.0. The F-22 compensates by having supercruise ability, very high AoA, extreme maneuverability, and very good climb rates. The intake itself incorporates a S-duct design, which may help with air compression to the engines and thus alleviate some of the drawbacks with a fixed inlet. At very high speeds, the J-10 or Flanker or even F-15 will outperform the F-22. This is irrelevant though since all of the aforementioned fighters can sustain such speeds for only an extremely brief period of time.

Overall, the F-35 is a smaller, single-engined fighter and follows a more conventional layout when it comes to design. Its intake is actually more advanced, because DSI is a more complex and newer technology than fixed inlet. It is said to be less stealthy, but I assure you it has nothing to do with intake design. The airframe of the F-35 itself its lacking; there is no piece of technology (that we know off) that is off limits to the F-35.

[flyzies]

J-10B...nice paint scheme.

[vesicles]

J-10B...nice paint scheme.
[qimg]http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l163/flyzies/military/J-10B.jpg[/qimg]

NICE!

I know this is not true, but J-10A always looks kind of flimsy to me. But J-10B looks so solid and tough, which is wonderful. To make a comparison with laptop computers, J-10A looks like a Dell while J-10B looks like an IBM thinkpad. Both are wonderful laptops, Dell just has this flimsy look while thinkpad looks like it'll just be fine even when you slam it against the wall.

[crobato]

Its really now Lenovo Thinkpad, and Lenovo did push the envelope further than IBM with regards to Thinkpads.

This new plane truly looks wonderful like everything about it from tip to tail blends with a purpose.

[Violet Oboe]

J-10B is really a distinguished beauty!

Nice to see that Chengdu's birds are eventually developing a distinctive design profile giving PLAAF an easily recognizable modern face.

[bladerunner]

Can anyone tell whether they have followed the Americans in counter sinking the rivets, in the construction of the J10B?

[bladerunner]

NICE!

I know this is not true, but J-10A always looks kind of flimsy to me.

Especially the shots of it taxing along the runway. I wonder it the under carriage is narrower then what one is use to seeing, thus giving the impression of a lit bit of unsteadiness.

[Skywatcher]

Can anyone tell whether they have followed the Americans in counter sinking the rivets, in the construction of the J10B?

They've been doing that in the J-10A already, but not around the intake or or the rear. Beats me why.

[FugitiveVisions]

I believe I have spotted a few J10s at Shantou on the lastest GE image, where 24 hardened shelters were built and photos of J10s on the ground had appeared before.

[Deino]

I believe I have spotted a few J10s at Shantou on the lastest GE image, where 24 hardened shelters were built and photos of J10s on the ground had appeared before.

Seems to be Shantou NE with its 35. Div / 103. Reg.

Deino

[lilzz]

I am comparing the landing gear of the J-10 and Rafael.
The J-10 landing gear looks way too simple.
Do you think this is reflective the overall industrial capibility and sophistication of the J-10 is not at the level of the western counterparts?

And Why the Rafel has that green light hud glowing like the F-22, and the J-10 doesn't?

[maxx]

Rafale is a carrier-borne fighter which means it has to take hard landing frequently, that's why it has bigger and stronger landing gears. On a side note, F-15 doesn't have overly sophisticated looking landing gear either.

[latenlazy]

I am comparing the landing gear of the J-10 and Rafael.
The J-10 landing gear looks way too simple.
Do you think this is reflective the overall industrial capibility and sophistication of the J-10 is not at the level of the western counterparts?

And Why the Rafel has that green light hud glowing like the F-22, and the J-10 doesn't?


[qimg]http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/images/j10_03large.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Rafale_070412-N-8157C-542.JPEG/750px-Rafale_070412-N-8157C-542.JPEG[/qimg]

Or maybe, you're looking at a carrier version, which needs to handle high stress landing...

Seriously, I doubt landing gears have anything to do with how capable an aircraft is or developed a country's industrial capability is. It could just be that they don't have elaborate looking landing gear because they don't need it.

As for the HUD, maybe it's because we've never seen a J-10B with its HUD turned on? (It's not even in production yet)