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    Chengdu Aircraft Industry designing more advanced J-10C fighter


    Staff Reporter
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    08:55 (GMT+8)

    A J-10B prototype takes a test flight. (Internet photo)

    The J-10B the upgrade version of China's J-10 fighter recently entered service with the People's Liberation Army, with its designer Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group already developing the more advanced J-10C, reports the Hong Kong-based Phoenix Television.

    Equipped with an active electronically scanned array radar, Phoenix Television stated that the J-10B has the capability to take out Japan's F-15J fighters if an aerial confrontation were to occur over the disputed Diaoyutai islands (called Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China) in the East China Sea. The fighter is also built with radar absorbent material and better diverterless supersonic inlet, while its stealth capability has also been increased compared to its predecessor, the J-10A.

    China is the only nation in the world which has the ability to build its own diverterless supersonic inlet other than the United States, the report said. With this technology, the J-10B is believed to be the best 4.5 generation fighter in the Asia-Pacific region. Its helmet-mounted display system designed for J-10B pilots reacts faster and it is also very similar to the US-built F-16E/F Block 60 and French-built Rafale.

    However, the J-10B is primarily designed as a fighter for aerial engagement. A multirole fighter will be needed for China to conduct ground attack missions as well as aerial combat missions against potential enemies in the region and therefore the PLA Air Force and Navy Air Force will need the more advanced J-10C, Phoenix Television said.

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    China's fourth-generation stealth J10C born in Chengdu shock: U.S. imperialism terrified



      Recent U.S. military rebellion: fly into China has developed the latest improved J10 - J10C fighters. The successful development of such fighters as early as expected the U.S. military, because the J10 aircraft from its official public official is already fielded dozens of front-line troops stand much.



      J10C equipped with more advanced radar equipment, the radar has greater than the J10 radar detection range and the ability to simultaneously track 12 targets and hit one of the biggest threats to six goals. Its cockpit is set up more advanced domestic diffraction HUD. In addition J10C In addition equipped with more advanced air to air missiles in the moment PL12 will be equipped with more advanced PL-13 remote air missiles, and this has the ability anti-missile early warning aircraft. The installation of a laser-guided pod J10C, but also to launch a variety of laser-guided bombs, to further improve the precision strike capability against ground fighters.



      J10C and J10 have a large difference in appearance, which uses a more sophisticated inlet design, originally because of the installation of a larger thrust engines designed for six additional bone ribs will cease to exist, replaced by a more streamlined design. In addition to the inlet, the biggest difference J10C and J10 appearance is that, J10C also *** F16E as the installation of a similar "hump Falcon" two king-size fuel tanks.



      In this regard the United States was not surprised that the United States believes J10 fighter design success lies in its fully digested and absorbed the advantages of F16 fighters, so J10C and F16E adopt similar practices designed to increase the range is not surprising. J10 fighter's overall performance has exceeded the F16A / B, and J10C fighter's performance is like with a dial-around as rhenium Shite man, and has exceeded all models F16, one of the main active duty U.S. warplanes. But the U.S. also believes that due to the J10 aircraft engines still have to rely on Russia, so Russia's J10C only uses the latest improved AL-31FN engine.



      The United States further noted J10C the successful development of China's significance lies not only J10C fighter itself, but rather as an important mission to China in its fourth generation fighter validation machines! It is reported that, J10C using stealth coatings, infrared suppression and many other stealth technology to reduce the amount of infrared radiation, and radar reflectivity, and before the U.S. military successfully developed a fourth-generation fighter F35, is also the first in the F16E fighter stealth design validation work carried out, and Russia launched the S-37 Golden Eagle aircraft also served the same task. So J10C successful development indicates that China's fourth-generation fighter JXX true also about to take off!



      Australian air force official blog magazine recently wrote, the exposure of the appearance and performance data of China's carrier-based aircraft J-10C, where landing roll distance reduced to less than 50 meters.



      The article points out that these data show, J-10C carrier-based aircraft and J-10 fighter series are almost identical, only the thrust increased from 122 kN to 152 kN, sliding distance shortened to less than 50 meters. Like with J-10, J-10C in addition to maintaining normal levels of the carrier aircraft flight, there is sufficient force to meet the needs of a variety of combat mission execution, and thus, J-10C acceleration, climbing and have been circled, etc. increased dramatically, even into combat mode vertical rise effortlessly.



      The article said, J-10C carrier-based aircraft operator controlled by a weapon, and is responsible for precision strikes. J-10C can carry 4 tons of ammunition, and the future will be equipped with precision-guided weapons. In addition, the carrier aircraft may also have ground attack capability
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    Re: New J-10 Thread III

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    Chengdu Aircraft Industry designing more advanced J-10C fighter

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    Australian air force official blog magazine recently wrote, the exposure of the appearance and performance data of China's carrier-based aircraft J-10C, where landing roll distance reduced to less than 50 meters.

    The article points out that these data show, J-10C carrier-based aircraft and J-10 fighter series are almost identical, only the thrust increased from 122 kN to 152 kN, sliding distance shortened to less than 50 meters. Like with J-10, J-10C in addition to maintaining normal levels of the carrier aircraft flight, there is sufficient force to meet the needs of a variety of combat mission execution, and thus, J-10C acceleration, climbing and have been increased dramatically, even into combat mode vertical rise effortlessly.
    Err...what?

    J-10C Carrier-based aircraft?

    Where? When? 1st I have heard of this...unbelievable, makes me think the source if completely full of it.
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    Chengdu Aircraft Industry designing more advanced J-10C fighter


    Staff Reporter
    2013-12-24
    08:55 (GMT+8)

    A J-10B prototype takes a test flight. (Internet photo)

    The J-10B the upgrade version of China's J-10 fighter recently entered service with the People's Liberation Army, with its designer Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group already developing the more advanced J-10C, reports the Hong Kong-based Phoenix Television.

    Equipped with an active electronically scanned array radar, Phoenix Television stated that the J-10B has the capability to take out Japan's F-15J fighters if an aerial confrontation were to occur over the disputed Diaoyutai islands (called Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China) in the East China Sea. The fighter is also built with radar absorbent material and better diverterless supersonic inlet, while its stealth capability has also been increased compared to its predecessor, the J-10A.

    China is the only nation in the world which has the ability to build its own diverterless supersonic inlet other than the United States, the report said. With this technology, the J-10B is believed to be the best 4.5 generation fighter in the Asia-Pacific region. Its helmet-mounted display system designed for J-10B pilots reacts faster and it is also very similar to the US-built F-16E/F Block 60 and French-built Rafale.

    However, the J-10B is primarily designed as a fighter for aerial engagement. A multirole fighter will be needed for China to conduct ground attack missions as well as aerial combat missions against potential enemies in the region and therefore the PLA Air Force and Navy Air Force will need the more advanced J-10C, Phoenix Television said.

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    China's fourth-generation stealth J10C born in Chengdu shock: U.S. imperialism terrified



      Recent U.S. military rebellion: fly into China has developed the latest improved J10 - J10C fighters. The successful development of such fighters as early as expected the U.S. military, because the J10 aircraft from its official public official is already fielded dozens of front-line troops stand much.



      J10C equipped with more advanced radar equipment, the radar has greater than the J10 radar detection range and the ability to simultaneously track 12 targets and hit one of the biggest threats to six goals. Its cockpit is set up more advanced domestic diffraction HUD. In addition J10C In addition equipped with more advanced air to air missiles in the moment PL12 will be equipped with more advanced PL-13 remote air missiles, and this has the ability anti-missile early warning aircraft. The installation of a laser-guided pod J10C, but also to launch a variety of laser-guided bombs, to further improve the precision strike capability against ground fighters.



      J10C and J10 have a large difference in appearance, which uses a more sophisticated inlet design, originally because of the installation of a larger thrust engines designed for six additional bone ribs will cease to exist, replaced by a more streamlined design. In addition to the inlet, the biggest difference J10C and J10 appearance is that, J10C also *** F16E as the installation of a similar "hump Falcon" two king-size fuel tanks.



      In this regard the United States was not surprised that the United States believes J10 fighter design success lies in its fully digested and absorbed the advantages of F16 fighters, so J10C and F16E adopt similar practices designed to increase the range is not surprising. J10 fighter's overall performance has exceeded the F16A / B, and J10C fighter's performance is like with a dial-around as rhenium Shite man, and has exceeded all models F16, one of the main active duty U.S. warplanes. But the U.S. also believes that due to the J10 aircraft engines still have to rely on Russia, so Russia's J10C only uses the latest improved AL-31FN engine.



      The United States further noted J10C the successful development of China's significance lies not only J10C fighter itself, but rather as an important mission to China in its fourth generation fighter validation machines! It is reported that, J10C using stealth coatings, infrared suppression and many other stealth technology to reduce the amount of infrared radiation, and radar reflectivity, and before the U.S. military successfully developed a fourth-generation fighter F35, is also the first in the F16E fighter stealth design validation work carried out, and Russia launched the S-37 Golden Eagle aircraft also served the same task. So J10C successful development indicates that China's fourth-generation fighter JXX true also about to take off!



      Australian air force official blog magazine recently wrote, the exposure of the appearance and performance data of China's carrier-based aircraft J-10C, where landing roll distance reduced to less than 50 meters.



      The article points out that these data show, J-10C carrier-based aircraft and J-10 fighter series are almost identical, only the thrust increased from 122 kN to 152 kN, sliding distance shortened to less than 50 meters. Like with J-10, J-10C in addition to maintaining normal levels of the carrier aircraft flight, there is sufficient force to meet the needs of a variety of combat mission execution, and thus, J-10C acceleration, climbing and have been circled, etc. increased dramatically, even into combat mode vertical rise effortlessly.



      The article said, J-10C carrier-based aircraft operator controlled by a weapon, and is responsible for precision strikes. J-10C can carry 4 tons of ammunition, and the future will be equipped with precision-guided weapons. In addition, the carrier aircraft may also have ground attack capability
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    Re: New J-10 Thread III

    Rofl we only need to read the title and sub titles to see it is BS.
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    I know that's why I wrote make of it what you wish lol maybe I shouldn't have posted it all!!
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    Nah its good we need something to laugh at every now and then
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    Made me chuckle.Good find sir,need that once in a while
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     J10C equipped with more advanced radar equipment, the radar has greater than the J10 radar detection range and the ability to simultaneously track 12 targets and hit one of the biggest threats to six goals.

    Australian air force official blog magazine recently wrote

    Wait for it guys here's the best bit, it can track 12 targets and "hit one of the biggest threats to six goals" WTF haha lol

    Also it's Australian Air Force offical blog and magazine, must be hell of a credible source!
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    Wait for it guys here's the best bit, it can track 12 targets and "hit one of the biggest threats to six goals" WTF haha lol

    Also it's Australian Air Force offical blog and magazine, must be hell of a credible source!
    That just look like shoddy translation. I suspect the original Chinese text said it can track 12 and engage the 6 most threatening targets simultaneously.
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    IMHO , all those speculations about J-10C are complete B.S. First off all , J-10B is not properly introduced into PLAAF . We don't know what kind of radar it has , would it get upgraded engines (Russian or Chinese ? ) , would it serve in mixed regiments with J-10A or not etc ...
    I'm not saying there won't be J-10C , but PLAAF would first have to operationally test J-10B . After that , they may decide they don't need new version of J-10 , that J-10B is good enough with certain upgrades until 5th gen fighter comes along . Also , their first priority could be to upgrade existing J-10As to a standard comparable with J-10B , or to quickly replace&retire existing J-7s etc ...
    Therefore , plans for J-10C could exist , but J-10C would not take its final shape at least 2 years from now , until we get definitive feedback from J-10B usage . Even naval J-10 (let's call it J-10N ) will not be finalized so fast . So far , PLAAN has only one carrier (by their own admission it is just a training ship) and there is still no definite sign of another . Therefore , there is still plenty of time to decide what kind of naval J-10 they need (STOBAR , CATOBAR ... ) if they need them at all .
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    Err...what?

    J-10C Carrier-based aircraft?

    Where? When? 1st I have heard of this...unbelievable, makes me think the source if completely full of it.
    I won't hold my breath for what the article calls J-10C until, at least, we see some photos.
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    Re: New J-10 Thread III

    Judging from the headline it seems that someone made a hasty translation of a typical B.S. article from tiexue.
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    I know that format. Seen it years and years ago and old net-dogs will recognise it... it typically starts with 'XX惊呼中国不可战胜, it's pretty much descended into parody by now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderchief View Post
    IMHO , all those speculations about J-10C are complete B.S. First off all , J-10B is not properly introduced into PLAAF . We don't know what kind of radar it has , would it get upgraded engines (Russian or Chinese ? ) , would it serve in mixed regiments with J-10A or not etc ...
    I'm not saying there won't be J-10C , but PLAAF would first have to operationally test J-10B . After that , they may decide they don't need new version of J-10 , that J-10B is good enough with certain upgrades until 5th gen fighter comes along . Also , their first priority could be to upgrade existing J-10As to a standard comparable with J-10B , or to quickly replace&retire existing J-7s etc ...
    Therefore , plans for J-10C could exist , but J-10C would not take its final shape at least 2 years from now , until we get definitive feedback from J-10B usage . Even naval J-10 (let's call it J-10N ) will not be finalized so fast . So far , PLAAN has only one carrier (by their own admission it is just a training ship) and there is still no definite sign of another . Therefore , there is still plenty of time to decide what kind of naval J-10 they need (STOBAR , CATOBAR ... ) if they need them at all .
    That assumes j10C is developed sequentially after j10B and relies on incremental improvement over j10B. If j10C is a parallel development from J10A and distinguished from J10B by different mission/performance emphasis, the it could certainly appear near concurrently with J10B.
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