New J-10 thread II

[unknauthr]

I wasn't sure if everyone had seen this or not:
http://upiasiaonline.com/Security/20...ployment/7667/
http://www.upi.com/International_Sec...-_part_1/4208/

According to these reports, commercial satellite imagery suggests that a fourth J-10 regiment is being readied for stand-up at Chifeng. This is based on newly constructed hangars, which match the size and number seen at other air bases that are confirmed to field the J-10. This would bring the total number of J-10 fighters in operational service to 112.

The authors site the following locations as J-10 regiments:

2nd Regiment, No. 1 Division at Chifeng
132nd Regiment, No. 44 Division, based at Luliang
8th Regiment, No. 3 Division, based at Changxing
5th Regiment, No. 2 Division, based at Guilin

[flyzies]

^ Well, 112 fighters by end of this year is no surprise considering the building rate.
This SDF site lists the J-10 deployments at:
3rd Air Division / 7th Fighter Regiment.
2rd Air Division / 5th Fighter Regiment at Guilin airbase, Guangxi.
44th Air Division / 132nd Fighter Regiment at Luliang airebase, Yunnan.

I think im going to trust this site over the author, who happens to be Pinkov btw...

It is so typical of Pinkov to go on to speculate the next deployment (by this years end) would be at 2nd Regiment of the No.1 Division in Chifeng like its a fact already set in stone

[tphuang]

I wasn't sure if everyone had seen this or not:
http://upiasiaonline.com/Security/20...ployment/7667/
http://www.upi.com/International_Sec...-_part_1/4208/

According to these reports, commercial satellite imagery suggests that a fourth J-10 regiment is being readied for stand-up at Chifeng. This is based on newly constructed hangars, which match the size and number seen at other air bases that are confirmed to field the J-10. This would bring the total number of J-10 fighters in operational service to 112.

The authors site the following locations as J-10 regiments:

2nd Regiment, No. 1 Division at Chifeng
132nd Regiment, No. 44 Division, based at Luliang
8th Regiment, No. 3 Division, based at Changxing
5th Regiment, No. 2 Division, based at Guilin

people always forget about the 20 FTTC J-10s.
We've known about Chifeng for two years now and PKF is finally reporting it. There are regiments outside of 1,2,3,44 that have J-10s. I think people just haven't followed it enough to keep track of active J-10s anymore.

[FugitiveVisions]

people always forget about the 20 FTTC J-10s.
We've known about Chifeng for two years now and PKF is finally reporting it. There are regiments outside of 1,2,3,44 that have J-10s. I think people just haven't followed it enough to keep track of active J-10s anymore.

Please don't leave us hanging...

[tphuang]

Please don't leave us hanging...

well, the fervour around J-10 have pretty much died in the past year, so people aren't asking to know what the current number and deployment status of J-10 right now. But last year, one of the big shrimps did mention numerous other regiments that were getting some J-10s, I just can't remember who they are. (the post was a while back).

[crobato]

Some rules or observations as to who might be the next J-10 regiments.

1. J-10 regiments tend to be picked from J-7 regiments.

2. It should go to a Military Region that does not have a J-10 regiment already. That currently leaves Jinan, Beijing (if you don't count the FTTC group), and Lanzhou. If Jinan, might be the 14th. If Beijing, then the 9th or 29th. If Lanzhou the 37th (which recently got J-7Gs).

3. The base would be identifiable with Google Earth when you have new shelters, around 28 of them.

[King_Comm]

How come each regiment only has 28 fighters? isn't there 12 planes per squadron, and 3 squadron per regiment plus a few replacements?

[crobato]

The PLAAF does not work on the concept of the Wester "squadron" but on the Soviet "regiment". Technically in the PLAAF A regiment can be anything from 20 to 40 aircraft, set in increments of four, e.g. 20, 24, 28, 32, etc,. Four aircraft represents a basic flight unit.

So 28 aircraft basically means 7 flights, probably one flight being the leader, followed by five flights, and one flight having the two seaters. Each PLAAF fighter regiment usually has a reserve training flight of four two seaters.

[King_Comm]

The Soviet and Chinese air forces do use regiment as the basic tactical formation, however, the squadron level does exist, as a flight is a company level unit, while regiment is a regiment level unit, and in Korean war and shortly afterwards at least, each squadron had three flights of 4 planes each.

[crobato]

It would make sense if the regiment is at least 24 planes. The JH-7A regiments are currently at 24 planes, and J-11s are 24 planes of single seaters, plus another flight or two of two seaters for trainers. The J-10 regiments can be assumed that way too, two squadrons with one flight of two seater trainers.

But keep in mind that its not that way all the time. The JH-7 groups started with 20 aircraft, and the Su-30 regiments are at 19-20 planes. J-7 units can be as much as 32 aircraft and the Q-5 regiments seems just as much or even more.

[mxiong]

J-10 seems to carry plenty of AAMs and glide bombs...

[Totoro]

Is that some photo shoot preparation? With a mockup of the plane? The choice of location seems very strange, too strange for any sort of PLAAF photo shoot.

[mxiong]

It's a retired J-10 prototype with export-oriented payload preparing for exhibition in front of AVIC I headquater in Beijing. It carries two PL-9C SRAAMs, four SD-10 MRAAMs and two LS-6 glide bombs.

[crobato]

Note the dual AAM rack on the middle pylon.

Its still a mock up but the mock up is significant for its intentions, and because its factory.

[unknauthr]

The People's Daily is reporting that production resumed at Chengdu five days after the earthquake:
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/9...4/6423562.html

What is absent, is an assessment of the longer term effects of the quake on the region's infrastructure. There could be production delays down the line if parts cannot be delivered from elsewhere because rail lines or roads have been damaged.