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New J-10 thread II

This is a discussion on New J-10 thread II within the Air Force forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; http://www.janes.com/news/defence/sy...0519_2_n.shtml Chinese J-10 'benefited from the Lavi project' Now Russian engineers who are said to have worked with the chinese ...

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    http://www.janes.com/news/defence/sy...0519_2_n.shtml

    Chinese J-10 'benefited from the Lavi project'
    Now Russian engineers who are said to have worked with the chinese and visited Chengdu for decades state J-10 obviously profitted from Lavi tech tranfer.
    Only weeks after the Russian charged the chinese over Su/J-11 aircraft and a general decline in defence contracts, this "revelation".

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    Base on overall aspects like avionics, radar, engine, armaments, maneuverability, etc. Which do you think is a BETTER plane in a combat from a distant range?

    J-10 or F-16E/F?
    J-10 or F-18E/F?

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    http://www.janes.com/news/defence/sy...0519_2_n.shtml



    Now Russian engineers who are said to have worked with the chinese and visited Chengdu for decades state J-10 obviously profitted from Lavi tech tranfer.
    Only weeks after the Russian charged the chinese over Su/J-11 aircraft and a general decline in defence contracts, this "revelation".

    BMW, Honda, Lexus, Audi and Malibu etc. all looked alike, they also have four wheels and do the same function. Who copies who?
    Last edited by evereachyu; 05-23-2008 at 10:42 PM.

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    Russians also claimed that J-10s were being sold to Iran.

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    in case anyone is wondering, this article basically says CAC is fully back to work.
    中国一航成都所员工奋力自救全面恢复科研生产
    据中航一集团网站报道 中国一航成都飞机设计研究所干部、职工面对地震灾害奋力自救,目前已经全面恢复科研、生产正常秩序,各项工 作正按计划有条不紊地进行。

    地震当天,一航成都所在第一时间内迅速成立了抗灾现场指挥部,在所长杨伟统一指挥下,职能机关部分同志由副 所长李松带队,在余震间隙深入研究所工作核心区域受损严重的科研综合大楼,初步排查,基本摸清了大楼受损情 况,制定严密措施,争分夺秒开展紧急抢修。

    5月14日上午,所抗灾现场指挥部召开会议,杨伟所长通报了相关情况,部署恢复工作的安排。按照统一要求, 各单位负责人组织相关人员于当天全面、彻底地检查清理办公室、机房和设备,针对地震引起的各种问题尤其注意 细节检查,杜绝不安全因素,制定整改措施,启动备份方案,为全面恢复科研生产工作做好充分准备。尽管研究所 出于安全考虑当天没有下达上班通知,但研究室很多同志自觉回到岗位上,如往常一样开始工作。

    5月15日,在“坚定信心、克服困难,全面恢复科研生产秩序”精神感召下,全所干部、职工基本恢复上班。部 分研究室和职能机关部门一上班就立刻召开全体会议,周密地安排部署灾后各项恢复工作。大家都以尽快恢复正常 科研生产工作的实际行动作为对灾区人民、对祖国的真诚回报。很快,各项工作按计划紧锣密鼓地进行,办公室里 、厂房内、试验室中……昔日熟悉的紧张有序的工作场景再次出现在人们眼前。(中航一集团网站)
    no need to worry about the progress of J-10/JF-17

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    I wonder who can give me the answer on my question in the previous post...

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    Base on overall aspects like avionics, radar, engine, armaments, maneuverability, etc. Which do you think is a BETTER plane in a combat from a distant range?

    J-10 or F-16E/F?
    J-10 or F-18E/F?
    Sorry but read the rules. No XX vs/or YY questions or topics here.
    "Lets do a thermal sweep."

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    Quote Originally Posted by crobato View Post
    Sorry but read the rules. No XX vs/or YY questions or topics here.
    But where should I ask it? My thread last few days have been closed and I was told to read other threads..

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    You simply don't ask it. Such topics can never be proven in an empirical basis with real data which has to be classified. So why bother. It will all be speculation and opinion anyway, leading to nationalistic flag waving.
    "Lets do a thermal sweep."

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    Ok. I am sorry..

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    I have to ask, what are the prospects of future J-10 variants having DSI intakes? What of super-cruise?

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    How could any of us here know the answers to such questions? It is possible that new variants have them? Sure. Is it probable? There's no way of knowing. Every person could give you their guess and that's about it. Personally, I'd say the fighter mission requirements may prevent the DSI intakes solution, as those, at least to my knowledge, don't work that well past a certain mach number, which seems to be around 1.6 or 1.7. On the other hand, if technology and budget permits, some degree of supercruising seems quite likely for some future variant of J-10.

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    double post

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    Nobody knows the capability of J-10 and its specifications, all stated are assumptions and estimations. China hasn't realsed squat about any of their hardware unless its for export. So right now only China knows the J-10 limits and soon Pakistan too...wondering if anyone here can read Chinese besides the moderators???

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    Re: New J-10 thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by PrOeLiTeZ View Post
    wondering if anyone here can read Chinese besides the moderators???
    A lot... feel free to post in Chinese. If you can't translate them into English, someone will do.
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