*New J-10 Thread*

[mehdi]

About the twin engined J-10 aka Super J-10 it is more likely that this project will evoleve further for the J-XX project.

[Chengdu J-10]

The PLAAF should have something like a B2 design but still having aspects of the J-10 put into it

[panzerkom]

(first?) J-10 squadron achieving IOC

[Chengdu J-10]

Underneath the cockpit and sitting above the air inletts are strutts connecting between them. This has always been bothering me wouldn't that gap in the middle add friction and thus reducing its aerodynamics? Why dont they connect the airinlets to the bottom of the cockpit (smooth it out)?

[crobato]

Originally Posted by Chengdu J-10

Underneath the cockpit and sitting above the air inletts are pipes connecting between them. This has always been bothering me wouldn't that gap in the middle add friction and thus reducing its aerodynamics? Why dont they connect the airinlets to the bottom of the cockpit (smooth it out)?

It serves an aerodynamic purpose. Rather than have air pressure build up between the intake plate and the bottom of that fuselage, it is allowed to leak sideways. The struts are there to break that incoming airflow.

By the way, the J-10 is not the only aircraft in the world to have this feature. Check closely at the MiG 1.44. That's probably where the idea came from.

Note the red parts near on "top" of the inlet. These are actually covering some bypass openings near the intake. If the diverter plate is fully up, it opens those holes, allowing the air to bleed through them, and reduce pressure build up inside the intake.

[Chengdu J-10]

How many J-10B does the PLAAF have in its inventory? And does the PLAAF 3rd Air Division have a full regiment of J-10B's yet?

[crobato]

The usual ratio of two seaters in a fighter regiment is about four planes per regiment. So every new regiment should have four of them. I don't think the J-10Bs were available when the J-10 regiment in the 44th Division was formed, or when the FTTC regiment was formed, but I'm guessing these regiments should get J-10Bs are part of backorder. So I think there is about 12-16 J-10Bs.

[crobato]

There is a report about the J-10s of the 44th Division playing aggressor against Jinan MR, which is defended by the Su-27s and J-11s of the 19th Division.

[Chengdu J-10]

Originally Posted by crobato

There is a report about the J-10s of the 44th Division playing aggressor against Jinan MR, which is defended by the Su-27s and J-11s of the 19th Division.

Why would the 44th Division equipped with J-10s play aggressor against Jinan MR, the 19th Division equipped with the Su-27s and J-11s? In my opinion their must be a debate of which airforce is better. (Pilot, training, skill and aircraft wise)

[crobato]

Originally Posted by Chengdu J-10

Why would the 44th Division equipped with J-10s play aggressor against Jinan MR, the 19th Division equipped with the Su-27s and J-11s? In my opinion their must be a debate of which airforce is better. (Pilot, training, skill and aircraft wise)

That's how the PLAAF exercises, Blue Flag vs. Red Flag with DACT.

In this case, 44th Division is playing I guess Blue Flag, trying to simulate ROCAF forces.

[tphuang]

Originally Posted by crobato

That's how the PLAAF exercises, Blue Flag vs. Red Flag with DACT.

In this case, 44th Division is playing I guess Blue Flag, trying to simulate ROCAF forces.

I also saw some rumours of JH-7A vs J-10, where JH-7A is trying to perform some low-altitude strike and J-10 is trying to prevent JH-7A

[Chengdu J-10]

Originally Posted by crobato

That's how the PLAAF exercises, Blue Flag vs. Red Flag with DACT.

In this case, 44th Division is playing I guess Blue Flag, trying to simulate ROCAF forces.

Sorry my mistake i was thinking of something else. Not the training that you were talking about i was thinking that you were talking about the internal problems between the regions airforce.

[crobato]

Reading some blogs and messages, it looks like the 1st Division J-11s and J-8Fs were also involved "fighting" the "ROCAF" (I bet you the 44th Division or FTTC J-10s playing Aggressor).

The 1st Division now appears slated to recieve an "all new domestic fighter" soon. The term is so vague it can apply both to the J-11B or J-10, but the current opinion is that they will be getting J-10s.

[Chengdu J-10]

Originally Posted by crobato

Reading some blogs and messages, it looks like the 1st Division J-11s and J-8Fs were also involved "fighting" the "ROCAF" (I bet you the 44th Division or FTTC J-10s playing Aggressor).

The 1st Division now appears slated to recieve an "all new domestic fighter" soon. The term is so vague it can apply both to the J-11B or J-10, but the current opinion is that they will be getting J-10s.

All domestic for the J-11 seems a bit to fast in the procedure of turning the licenese production of the Russian Su-27 to a domestic J-11. While the J-10 sounds more likely of turning fully domestic, as it needs just a couple of things to make it fully domestic. Possibly the radar, and the engine from the AL-31FN to the WS-10A

[crobato]

Originally Posted by crobato

Reading some blogs and messages, it looks like the 1st Division J-11s and J-8Fs were also involved "fighting" the "ROCAF" (I bet you the 44th Division or FTTC J-10s playing Aggressor).

Might also be a locking contest with the real ROCAF. By locking contest I mean the planes would attempt to get a target lock on against ROCAF Mirages, IDFs and F-16s and vice versa.