99Likes
Reply With QuoteI wouldn't say that. The seeker for PL-8B is far superior to PL-5 and it also has OBV and a all new digital processor. But of course, PL-5 is cheaper than PL-8B.Originally Posted by sumdud
This is a discussion on JH-7/JH-7A Thread within the Air Force forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; I think China would define the JH-7 as a strike plane rather than a fighter-bomber. It'll be great for the ...
Super Moderator
I think China would define the JH-7 as a strike plane rather than a fighter-bomber. It'll be great for the JH-7A to be able to act as a fighter, but from what China has done, that is doubtful.
But do you know the strength of the wing? How else will you know that the 2nd station out is too weak to handle BVRAAMs?
PL-5B is tail-aspect, but all PL-5C/E and PL-8 are all-aspect, but the PL-5 cannot be used with HMS, but since right now JH-7A has no HMS, Having the PL-8 is like having the PL-5....
Since the JH-7A can launch long range ASMs, I too would think the JH-7A can launch BVRAAMs, but unless we see that happen in action, we can't say anything.
Also, PL-10 is not BVR. (Sounds like people haven't realise.)
I want Asia on my front porch and America as my backyard.
Disclaimer: By America, I meant the Continent. And yes, I know Asian homes have neither a backyard nor a porch in the American sense.
Super Moderator
I wouldn't say that. The seeker for PL-8B is far superior to PL-5 and it also has OBV and a all new digital processor. But of course, PL-5 is cheaper than PL-8B.
Senior Member
PL-10 is BVR, it's just naff that's all.
I think the pic with LGBs is fake now I've seen the similar CGI with different weapons. That would explain the PL-5/8 issue.
I suspect that the JH-7 fleet is only routinely equiped with PL-5B AAMs for self defence because they are less draggy (less impact on performance, particularly on wingtip position), cheaper and only intended for self-defense. Training the flight crew to employ BVR weapons and/or HMS would be expensive, timre consuming and a distraction from their primary mission.
Super Moderator
PL-5Bs would have expired by now, and yes old missles have a limited shelf life even in storage. I don't see them using PL-5Bs anymore and PL-5Es are mostly an export item, though I am not sure if they are delivered to the PLAAF at all. I have never seen a PL-5B in any recent picture with a PLAAF plane.
As the JH-7s are upgraded to the second block configuration, and all the new production would be JH-7A, they would surely use the PL-8s as the most convenient missile in stock around.
Training the flight crew for BVR and equipping the plane with HMS might be additional costs, as planeman mentioned, with only minimal benefit. The JH-7s might have greater survivability just to turn around and run away, rather than stick around to fight.
Super Moderator
Well, PL-10 flies around 18km, not exactly BVR range yet.........
PL-8B? I haven't heard about that missile, got a page?
I want Asia on my front porch and America as my backyard.
Disclaimer: By America, I meant the Continent. And yes, I know Asian homes have neither a backyard nor a porch in the American sense.
Super Moderator
This is the term people used for improved PL-8 corresponding to the PL-9C, which is official designation.
Planeman, while searching around Xian using google earth, I found giant pyramids not far from the city. I believe these to be the tombs of kings, nobility and emperors of earlier dynasties. I'm trying to look for more pyramids.
Super Moderator
Hey ... I know it's off-topic, but can You please give the coordinates !! I was searching this aerea too for the Xian factory but so far without any success.
Cheers, Deino
Super Moderator
king's 'n pyramids
As interesting it may sound, it's offtopic as Deino mentioned it...so Crobato, post the co-ordinates and lets move on...further discussion over this pyramid thing should be done in member's club room
Ooh, your custard pie, yeah, sweet and nice
When you cut it, mama, save me a slice
...and you can have your slice at:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
New Member
Banned
Wow...that is defintely the clearest, most detailed picture of the jh-7A cockpit weve seen so far. Nice work.
Lets see...two color MFDs(maybe a thid one under the one on the far side), HUD, no HMS(so it is solely ground attack). Not exactly cuttung edge, but not bad.
Super Moderator
Why are the bomber's HP bunched near the tips? Can't China put the HPs closer to the body?
I want Asia on my front porch and America as my backyard.
Disclaimer: By America, I meant the Continent. And yes, I know Asian homes have neither a backyard nor a porch in the American sense.
Super Moderator
Can't be clear ir there is no HMS or not. The dashboard appears to have some objects that could potentially be positional sensors.
New Member
That's most likely the warning/caution lights. I wonder what the Chinese version of Bitch'n Betty is like.
The gloves . . . yeah, I'm on the gloves again. They have got to be awful when it comes to tactile feedbacks. Why is such a basic item so woefully obsolete for the PLA?
Super Moderator
I was hopeful of seeing a new JH-7A regiments, but this is photo of the one in 28th division again.
New Member
PL-5 is not obsolete...not the latest variant anyway. Besides, the wing tip rails were designed in the 70s, with PL-5 in mind, remember that PL-8 wasnt in service during then.
If PLANAF was the only air force responsible for anti-ship strikes, then that is sad sad sad news for China. Considering taking down an aircraft carrier will depend on considerable air power...
China does not have the luxuries of having huge numbers of Badgers and Backfires as the Soviet Navy had.
Posting Permissions
Bookmarks