JH-7/JH-7A Thread

[chicket9]

We can probably say JH-7 has been very successful indeed. Good work on the Chinese for turning something of a 70s concept of just pure anti-shipping to something quite formidable against all types of surface targets...

The PLAAF finally has something in the Tornado IDF class.

An interceptor? Hmmm yes I agree it has the legs, it could have the radar, and it has the payload to carry a whole lot. But unless it receives much redesign to its air frame (eg, more stealth), and thrust vectoring engines, this is an aircraft that could not hope to defeat any F-16 (or even F-5) unless it was escorted.

I only wonder how many PLAAF and PLANAF will acquire.

Reported that PLAAF operates one batch (around 20?) and PLANAF operates two batches (40). I don't think it can replace Q-5 on one for one basis, and remember we got Su-30MKK, J-11B and possibly J-10B strike aircraft coming, though JH-7 is probably the cheapest of them all.

[spc_ace]

How much does one JH-7A cost? We heard that J7, J8 and J10 cost about 5, 10 and 15 million USD respectively.

[tphuang]

the article do not mention which radar band.during MAK2004 airshow in moscow,Phozotron told aviation week that there's 2 Chinese firm developing AESA.

well, that actually mentions X. I think the section is most likely speculations with no real proof, but I honestly would not use anything that Phazotron says as the proof to know how many Chinese firms are working on AESA. We know of lab 14, lab 38 and lab 607.

too many rumours about JH-7B. Nothing substantial.

J-10 cost more than $15 million, probably in the early 20s. JH-7A is between J-8F and J-10 imo.

[tphuang]

a new photo of jh-7


no idea, what's going on with plaaf jh-7A. It looks like there are two regiments of jh-7a from strictly the numbering, but only 28th division was mentionned as having jh-7a for the longest time.

[tphuang]

more pictures of plaaf JH-7A, this one is from the 28th division

and here is one with KAB-500L, looks like pla uses more Russian PGMs than Chinese people would like to admit.

[crobato]

Looks like KANWA is correct on the KAB-500L importation, which they reported a few years ago. Note that this bomb is not used with the MKKs, which use the KAB-500T, or the TV guided version.

[ksc133]

anybody knows the Ejection Seat of JH-7?

is it russian k-36M used in su-27

OR martin baker Mk-10B used for (parkistan export) F-7

oR something new?

thanks

[tphuang]

not sure about the ejection seat of JH-7.
new picture of JH-7 with KD-88

huitong mentionned that it is a TV-guided ASM, the other guy posting this on another forum mentionned a multi-seeker using TV-guided, IIR and anti-radiaiton seekers.

[Deino]

... additional the blue AAM on the wingtip looks like a PL-7 ????

I thought that AAm never entered PLAAF-service !!!

Any comments

[crobato]

Wow the video is quite a find. Someday I like to see that in youtube.

Might be a PL-7 but I'm not sure. Could be an R-73. Either that, we may have to rethink how missiles are accepted and integrated in the PLAAF.

The JH-7As here are clearly PLAAF, since PLAAF has them in this shade of grey and PLANAF in white, or at least a light grey. As PLAAF normally don't deploy AshMs, the YJ-8X like missiles there would have to be land attack, and should have TV-EO seeker heads, and managed by the weapons officer.

The JH-7A with the blue missile seems fitted with LGBs.

[planeman]

The blue wingtip AAM isn't AA-11 Archer. PL-7 is almost certain in this case but that really surprises me, not least because I thought the wingtip positions must have a very light weight limit else we'd have seen PL-8s on them before now rather than the usual PL-2s.

[Pointblank]

We can probably say JH-7 has been very successful indeed. Good work on the Chinese for turning something of a 70s concept of just pure anti-shipping to something quite formidable against all types of surface targets...

The PLAAF finally has something in the Tornado IDF class.

An interceptor? Hmmm yes I agree it has the legs, it could have the radar, and it has the payload to carry a whole lot. But unless it receives much redesign to its air frame (eg, more stealth), and thrust vectoring engines, this is an aircraft that could not hope to defeat any F-16 (or even F-5) unless it was escorted.

I only wonder how many PLAAF and PLANAF will acquire.

Reported that PLAAF operates one batch (around 20?) and PLANAF operates two batches (40). I don't think it can replace Q-5 on one for one basis, and remember we got Su-30MKK, J-11B and possibly J-10B strike aircraft coming, though JH-7 is probably the cheapest of them all.

I think a JH-7 in an air to air role would be more of a long-range interceptor, like the Tornado ADV. Carry lots of long range radar-guided missiles, and intercept targets out at an distance. Since it is a two-seater, the rear seat position can either be removed to save weight or to provide space for more electronics or a fuel tank, or the rear seat can be maintained, and a radar-operator, a-la the F-14 Tomcat can sit in that position.

[planeman]

Re this jet powered missile that keeps appearing on JH-7 models, any news on what it is?


It appears to have a rear radome... or is that a parachute housing...

[crobato]

Hard to say. My only conclusion is that it's a rearward facing antenna to recieve updates from the fighter. Putting it in the rear like that solves potential aerodynamic drag even from tiny antenna stubs sticking out of the fuselage. If you're seriously trying to eliminate body antenna, you're expecting the missile to go that fast.

[AssassinsMace]

Nice shot from underneath.