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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    Can't help with browser issues. Firefox works fine for me. I like firefox because it seems to be more stable and faster than internet explorer, though I've never tried google crome.

    It's just a CG I guess, the guy who made it is not a military expert.
    I've also seen the pic before, some said it was meant to represent navalized two engine J-10 variant (external loads).

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    Quote Originally Posted by FarkTypeSoldier View Post
    Here I found a link on a CGI picture:



    Enjoy!

    Original image from: 中国专家:外媒报道歼20与中国航母时设置陷阱图(16)--军事频道_中华网
    The J-20 colour scheme in this CG looks way better than those I've seen being proposed a while back somewhere.

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    Quote Originally Posted by no_name View Post
    Can't help with browser issues. Firefox works fine for me. I like firefox because it seems to be more stable and faster than internet explorer, though I've never tried google crome.

    It's just a CG I guess, the guy who made it is not a military expert.
    I've also seen the pic before, some said it was meant to represent navalized two engine J-10 variant (external loads).
    I'm using I.E. and are still experiencing the problem of results number intermixing with and blocking the page title. Anyone else have the same problem?

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    Re: First close-up picture of J-20 Mighty Dragon opened cockpit

    Quote Originally Posted by Martian View Post
    May I ask:

    Is it a MUST for all warplanes to have the parachute?

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    Quote Originally Posted by Quickie View Post
    The J-20 colour scheme in this CG looks way better than those I've seen being proposed a while back somewhere.
    Yup, sort of a dark navy blue colour scheme... It goes well with the red & yellow emblem of the PLAAF logo.

    Is colour scheme an important aspect in designing a stealth plane?

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    Quote Originally Posted by Quickie View Post
    The J-20 colour scheme in this CG looks way better than those I've seen being proposed a while back somewhere.
    Lol those CGIs are just of the J-20 in its initial prototype colour...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red___Sword View Post
    Thanks a lot of the patient.

    I think is the browser (with pulg-in) problem, I uses IE or Maxthon(which is IE core), it never have this "right click" and shows "view image" thing, it have "show image URL" but give the wrong one.

    Nevertheless, I can do it upload one pic a time.

    An early concept for the "J-XX" is a twin enging J-10 stealth version - while the artist is not a military expert, he believes "more payload, the better".






    That's not J-XX concept, I think it was J-10 "C" or nicknamed "Super-10", basically twin-engine version of J-10.





    The interesting thing is that the original CG artist envision this "J-10C/Super-10" as a carrier based naval fighter as seen here with folding wings :






    Edit:

    On further thought, regarding the pic I post. - I can understood the J-XX's wing plane's maneuver;

    But I can not understan the F-15's wingman's maneuver. In combat, the wingman stick behind like that? Even under fire? The F-15 leader has been engaged, shouldn't the wingman stay behind and engage the enemy attacker's ass, and thus cover the leader?

    I know it is a concept art, but in real combat, CAN F-15 TEAM BEING AMBUSHED LIKE THAT? (when wingman do not have a good angle at the attacker)

    It could be the F-15s are running out of fuel....and they are running their way back to base.
    Since F-15 is land based fighter, if they are going to engage J-10 like that, they will be flying too far out of their base, and most likely outside of their normal range from Kadena Air Base in Okinawa. Not too sure about Kunsan Air Base in South Korea though - which could reach large part of China with F-15's 2000 km range / 1000 km combat radius.

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    Quote Originally Posted by Bltizo View Post
    Lol those CGIs are just of the J-20 in its initial prototype colour...
    Yes, I notice they're almost in the same shade, but there's still quite a noticeable difference in colour.

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    Re: First close-up picture of J-20 Mighty Dragon opened cockpit

    Re: Is it a MUST for all warplanes to have the parachute?

    I remember seeing, nearly 50 years ago, a F-104 with a tail hook, to be used on an air base of course, not on an aircraft carrier. And the Swedes equipped their Viggen with thrust reversers. The alternatives are an even longer runway and a runway with a grit overrun to stop your plane. You're always paying a price.

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    A bit of light hearted entertainment I drew/wrote up on paint in a half hour...
    "Troll story of J-20/J-XX" -- basically a humorous and rather brief take on the development of J-20 and a few of the significant moods and milestones I felt waiting for this plane to come out.
    Now that we're seeing relatively frequent flights with more on the horizon I think this is all good.
    (This is just for fun and no one should take it too seriously. If the mods don't like the pictures or think they're too big or rude or something then I'll remove them no problem)





    (EDIT: for picture two it should read "Early 2010"... sigh and I double checked everything before uploading too...)
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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    J-20 Flight-log (until 13 May):

    1. 11. January – 12:50 to 13:08 (18 minutes)
    2. 17. April – 16:25 to 17:50 (1 hour 25 minutes)
    3. 5. May – 15:30 to 16:24 (55 minutes) – first flight with landing gear up
    4. 5. May – 17:50 to 18:47 PM (57 minutes)
    5. 12. May – ? minutes


    Any more info I missed (esp. for yesterday ??) or corrections ??

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    Quote Originally Posted by Quickie View Post
    I'm using I.E. and are still experiencing the problem of results number intermixing with and blocking the page title. Anyone else have the same problem?
    It happens when the numbers are high. Should be an easy fix for the mods if you report it. try here >Feedback & Suggestions

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    Quote Originally Posted by Bltizo View Post
    A bit of light hearted entertainment I drew/wrote up on paint in a half hour...
    "Troll story of J-20/J-XX" -- basically a humorous and rather brief take on the development of J-20 and a few of the significant moods and milestones I felt waiting for this plane to come out.
    Now that we're seeing relatively frequent flights with more on the horizon I think this is all good.
    (This is just for fun and no one should take it too seriously. If the mods don't like the pictures or think they're too big or rude or something then I'll remove them no problem)





    (EDIT: for picture two it should read "Early 2010"... sigh and I double checked everything before uploading too...)
    ikr? i know really? (i guessed the meaning)

    nice one btw. when i saw the 'chinese stealth fighter 2015", i was thinking "hey thats me" lol since i said sth of similar a few posts earlier about the possible quickest deployment. but anywys nice artwork and we'll c wt goes soon. we should make a demotivational poster too

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    Quote Originally Posted by airsuperiority View Post
    ikr? i know really? (i guessed the meaning)

    nice one btw. when i saw the 'chinese stealth fighter 2015", i was thinking "hey thats me" lol since i said sth of similar a few posts earlier about the possible quickest deployment. but anywys nice artwork and we'll c wt goes soon. we should make a demotivational poster too
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    Cheers lol, those pics are what you get when I have nothing better to do on a Friday night
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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter II

    Quote Originally Posted by Red___Sword View Post
    Thanks a lot of the patient.


    An early concept for the "J-XX" is a twin enging J-10 stealth version - while the artist is not a military expert, he believes "more payload, the better".




    there were a twin engined super-sized J10 proposal, (think M4000 vs M2000) but this is a separate proposal in its own right wrt J20.

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