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Old 06-24-2007   #76
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Re: Exported J-7

Thanks.

Yes the ground radars are said to be Chinese. The old network would have consisted of JY-9 and at least two CEIEC 408-C systems. See http://www.forecastinternational.com.../rs/RS0710.HTM for the CEIEC 408-C.
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Old 07-08-2007   #77
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All J7 serie production for PLAAF have ceased already last year, as of export production of J7 also have all been ceased early this year, J7 assembly line have been ended. Remaining J7s in PLAAF will be progressively replaced by other newer fighter, part of those replaced J7s will be converted to unmanned aircraft or for training exercise purpose, rest to be sorted and melt down and reproduced into parts of newer aircraft.


Guess J-7s export is now also ended after hundreds of aircraft export, J7 served its purpose.

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check out www.topgunchen.cn see artistic profiles there is a good side view of an AFZ F-7N



Does any one know about the F-7MGs that Namibia has ordered from China?

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check out www.topgunchen.cn see artistic profiles there is a good side view of an AFZ F-7N

http://www.topgunchen.cn/page/album_...p?album_id=941
Does any one know about the F-7MGs that Namibia has ordered from China? Are they operational yet and where will they be based
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All J7 serie production for PLAAF have ceased already last year, as of export production of J7 also have all been ceased early this year, J7 assembly line have been ended. Remaining J7s in PLAAF will be progressively replaced by other newer fighter, part of those replaced J7s will be converted to unmanned aircraft or for training exercise purpose, rest to be sorted and melt down and reproduced into parts of newer aircraft.


Guess J-7s export is now also ended after hundreds of aircraft export, J7 served its purpose.
How do you know or where did you get the info that all J7 series production has stopped ?

I am sure J-7G and J-7MF still in production, they are very good fighter and do the job very well against any air force in the world but US
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How do you know or where did you get the info that all J7 series production has stopped ?

I am sure J-7G and J-7MF still in production, they are very good fighter and do the job very well against any air force in the world but US
I was reported several times ... and the MF was never in production; it was not even built as a prototype !!!

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Old 08-26-2007   #82
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You are right the MF never made production as the FC-1 was a direct rival so I guess it was pointless developing the aircraft. However the F-7G which was not a major change to the original F-7 ( new wing, new engine and avionics , only one 30mm cannon) is still in production and is a capable light weight fighter.
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I don't think there are going to be any new buyers of the J-7... buying such a dated design is not economical now. Also, existing owners will be looking by now to replace their fleet with something more advanced. No matter how much new avionics you stuff in it, the J-7 is a dated design. It is also a design with major limitations, such as radar size, range, payload, and maneuverability.
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Not all nations can afford more modern aircrafts than the J-7, some struggle to acquire even the J-7, cause their military force is so ill equipped and underbudget. J-7 can challenge even some of the current USAF aircrafts in dogfights, with odds of even winning some of them. But beyond that it starts to lack...
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How about the GAIC JL-9 (FTC-2000)? A poor country could acquire a small number of these and use them for both training and active service duty. It's probably cheaper than the FC-1/JF-17.

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Janes Defence Weekly
November 10, 2004

New Variant Of Chinese Fighter Planned

By Robert Karniol, JDW Asia-Pacific Editor, Zhuhai

Chinas Guizhou Aviation Industry Group (GAIC) has revealed its design for the LFC-16, an innovative new fighter the company proposes to build based on a concept design known as the CY-1.

A model of the CY-1 displayed at the China Air Show 2002 featured sweptback, shoulder-mounted foreplanes plus what were described as side-plate canards, comprising a narrow rectangular surface each side of the fuselage from just below the foreplane trailing-edge to extreme tail. The tail had rectangular, downward-canted tailfins with small leading-edge strakes.

The twin-seat CY-1 was reportedly designed by Beijing SuperWing Technology Research Institute. It was described as a variant of the FTC-2000 advanced jet trainer, itself a proposed lead-in fighter trainer.

A model of the LFC-16 shown at China Air Show 2004 in Zhuhai from 1-7
November differed from the CY-1; this was a single-seat version described by officials as a night fighter. GAIC officials told JDW that two one-seventh scale models have been built for wind-tunnel testing with the expectation that a full-size prototype will be built within a year or two. The project has government support, they added.

The proposed aircraft would have a normal take-off weight of 9,000 kg, of which a maximum of 3,500 kg would comprise cargo. A practical ceiling of 17,000 m is envisaged with a maximum range of 2,800 km. Projected take-off unstick speed is given as 230 km/h to 250 km/h and landing touchdown speed as 210 km/h to 230 km/h.

The LFC-16 is intended to achieve a maximum speed of M1.8 with a maximum engine thrust of 7,800 kg. Endurance is given as 3.5 hours, with a take-off run of 440 m and a landing run of 490 m.

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I am looking for photos of Zimbabwe Air Force F-7s, I believe they have appeared at Air shows at Charles Prince in the mid 90's and recently at a joint AFZ SAAF air show, does any one have any good pictures? I have seen some nice photos of AFZ Mi-35s on Airliners.net taken at the air show.
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I am looking for photos of Zimbabwe Air Force F-7s, I believe they have appeared at Air shows at Charles Prince in the mid 90's and recently at a joint AFZ SAAF air show, does any one have any good pictures? I have seen some nice photos of AFZ Mi-35s on Airliners.net taken at the air show.

Thanks for the link to F-7 #711 and the beautiful artwork. The best photos from that airshow are here: http://www.af.mil.za/news/2005/zimairshow.htm
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Thanks Chaminuka, I can't seem to open the link, could you load the photos onto the Forum? Yes topgunchen does very good work and the side view of the OC 5sqns F-7 is well done.
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I think the one on the nearside is #711



There is one on the ground on the left of the 2nd officer:


I heard they had avionic upgrades a year or two ago but don't know which radars they received

Next time I am in Hre I will visit the National Archives, I contacted they and they said they have loads of material but they could not scan and email them for me.
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Thank you Chaminuka, I would appreciate any pictures you have if you get some from the National Archives
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