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This is a discussion on Chinese-European transport helo project within the Air Force forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; Regarding the Z-15/EC.175. Are there any news on this inportant new type ... how many prototypes are flying, status of ...

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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    Regarding the Z-15/EC.175.

    Are there any news on this inportant new type ... how many prototypes are flying, status of certification ... any news on the Chinese PLA-version ?!

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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    I don't think anything has come out from the recent months on this. We saw WZ-16 in the recent helicopter show, but that's about it.

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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    Quote Originally Posted by tphuang View Post
    I don't think anything has come out from the recent months on this. We saw WZ-16 in the recent helicopter show, but that's about it.
    WZ-16 ??? that's new to me ! ... was there a photo posted ??

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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    sorry WZ-16 as in the engine. You know the one they are developing based on Ardiden series.

    On a side note, we got a nice photo of the first prototype of Z-9D
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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    Good video, dirty lens.

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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    *欧合作的直-15直升机投入批产 今年制*17架_军事频道_凤凰网
    本报讯 (通讯员 尤志强)近日,从中航工业哈飞传来好消息,哈飞与法国欧直公司联合研制的AC352/EC175直升机开始由研制转入批产阶段,今年将制造17架机,标志着该机型的市场大门正式开启。

    AC352/EC175直升机是一型填补国内6吨级直升机空白、代表世界最先进水平的直升机,还在研制阶段就已得到市场 青睐。

    2008年,在美国休斯敦直升机博览会上,AC352/EC175以1∶1的模型现身,因其安全性、可靠性及舒适度等优势,成为市场上强有力的竞争者,共接到来自 北美、亚洲、欧洲13家公司的111架启动订单。为满足市场需求,欧直决定在2012年批产1 7架机。

    按照惯例,一种机型从研制到批产过渡时间在一年左右,而AC352/EC175过渡期只有三个多月。面对挑战,哈飞把AC352/EC175批产工作作为第一要务,制定了严格的考核措施。

    为确保批产顺利进行,哈飞抢前抓早,在2011年10月就开始研究批产的提速方案,千方百计提升产能。针对 目前存在的技术问题,哈飞积极与合作方沟通协调,同时依托信息化平台,快捷地协调解决内部的生产、技术问题 。
    EC-173 will start mass production this year with 17 this year.

    哈飞今年成功销往玻利维亚6架直9 迎来开门红_军事频道_凤凰网
    中航工业哈飞自2011年与中航技签订30架直9系列机购销合同以来,不断加大国内外市场开发力度,直9外 销创历史新高、运12销售领域拓宽。1月份共签订了6架直9和两架运12销售合同,市场销售迎 来开门红。

    去年签订30架直9购销合同后,哈飞与中航技联合成立项目团队,双方本着合作共赢的原则,充分利用航展等展 览宣介时机,积极加大国内外市场开拓力度。按购销合同规定,30架直9的销售将在2014年前完成落实。在 项目团队的积极努力下,2011年先后签订直9出口赞比亚7架机、出口柬埔寨12架机合同,直9外销取得喜 人业绩。

    今年,项目团队继续加大市场开发力度,成功销往玻利维亚6架直9。至此,30架直9购销合同已完成落实25 架,整体目标有望提前完成。

    运12飞机被誉为中国民用飞机的骄傲之花,是中国第一个进入国际市场、出口国家最多、销售量最大的民用机种 。老挝购买2架运12后马上投入运行,每架机每天飞行3个航班,班班客满,飞机出勤率高,营运效果好,可以 在砂石的跑道上起飞着陆,受到老挝民航用户的好评。优良的性能、良好的质量、优质的服务和价格优势,不断引 来回头客。截至目前,运12系列飞机已出口20多个国家和地区,累计交付国内外用户150余架 。

    新年伊始,哈飞深入挖掘运12潜在用户,同时进一步完善用户回访制度,提高售后服务质量,以产品的优质性能 适应市场需求,以诚信的服务满足客户。1月份,与内蒙古自治区根河市政府签订了2架运12E型购销合同,并 与国家海洋局等单位达成初步购销意向,运12系列机销售再现良好前景。
    it says they have exported 6 Z-9s and 2 Y-12s to Bolivia in January. This is after signing contract for 7 Z-9s to Zambia and 12 to Cambodia in 2011. They also sold 2 Y-12s to Laos.

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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    Are china and france both going to have a production line for EC175? If not it may make it harder for PLA to get a military version.
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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    They will, but the Chinese one is not up yet, since they want to create one using WZ-16, which I think is not ready yet.
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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    Quote Originally Posted by tphuang View Post
    sorry WZ-16 as in the engine. You know the one they are developing based on Ardiden series.

    On a side note, we got a nice photo of the first prototype of Z-9D


    Nice helo, what upgrades does this have over Z9C which Pakistan has?

    I would really like to see Pakistan Navy order AC313 helicopter, it can carry 5 tons of external payload and would be a fine replacement for our Seakings

    A modified AC313 could carry anti-ship missles and lots of other equipment
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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    Z-9D is capable of carrying four small anti ship missiles called TL-10; so basically it's an anti surface variant of Z-9C.

    However I'm not sure whether Z-9D can perform SAR and ASW, or if the avionics necessary for firing the missiles took up the rest of the space..
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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    Is this real or psed !????

    http://www.f y j s.cn/bbs/htm_data/27/1205/702220.html

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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    Looks quite PSed. And it doesnt make sense that chinese would have it in service (shouldnt some testing pics be available before that?) when even the european variant hasnt entered serial production?

    I must say the glacial pace at which z15 project is going is quite unnerving. And we still dont even have any guarantee that it would actually serve in the armed forces. What if chinese companies wont get unlimited licenced production of the engine? Perhaps copying the engine is something that is still holding that programme back...

    What is good is news of better performance than expected, it was written awhile back that its mtow has gone little over 7 tons, and that its range figures are really in top of its weight class.

    But realistically, at this pace, I don't see z15 entering active service (first 20+ airframes) before 2014/2015.

    edit: just found this:
    http://www.***********/forums/chines...z-15-helo.html

    which may be old news to some but i managed to miss it. So Harbin chose to develop a whole new engine, possibly from scratch, in cooperation with turbomeca. That is sure to take a while, even if it was started back in 2010. or even 2009. 2015 is looking more likely to me now though, on the bright side, this pretty much confirms z15 is planned to be used for the military.
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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    Quote Originally Posted by Deino View Post
    Is this real or psed !????

    http://www.f y j s.cn/bbs/htm_data/27/1205/702220.html

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    If the pic is small and blurred, 99% of chances are it's PS.

    Thought you should be familiar with that already...
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    Re: Chinese-European transport helo project

    Quote Originally Posted by Deino View Post
    Is this real or psed !????

    http://www.f y j s.cn/bbs/htm_data/27/1205/702220.html

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    Looking at the texturing, it has a similar pattern to the JH-7B, Z-8 PS. I think the same person is upto his tricks again

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