Chinese AAM

Originally Posted by i.e.

I thought that was a telemetry pod?

Dunno. I didn't DL the picture so we can't judge now.

PL-10 is an old-airframe. no need to use that?

We are talking about the same missile right?
Doesn't seem old, considering it hasn't even entered service yet.

Originally Posted by Bltizo

Dunno. I didn't DL the picture so we can't judge now.



We are talking about the same missile right?
Doesn't seem old, considering it hasn't even entered service yet.

Sorry was thinking that that Aspid derivative. which also is named PL-10.

no that stick pod was too big .

Originally Posted by i.e.

Sorry was thinking that that Aspid derivative. which also is named PL-10.

no that stick pod was too big .

That Aspid-derived one is PL-11.

PL-12

an end of the year propoganda piece by Chinese aerospace newspaper on Chinese AAM projects

中国新一代雷达制导导弹空中弹射试验圆满成功
2011-12-30 来源：中国航空报

　　2011年，对于中航工业导弹院来说，有着太多象征意义。新一代雷达产品的竞标、新型红外产品设计定型 、某型号批检等9大试验任务，关乎着夺取“十二五”开门红和导弹院未来的发展和命运。过去半年以来，为确保 完成重大的各项试验任务，部分干部职工，离别家乡，肩负使命，征战大漠，谱写了一曲大漠壮歌。
　　试验队演绎惊心动魄
　　试验基地成功发射一枚地面火箭弹，基地指挥大厅的屏幕上清晰地显示着产品发射出去的画面——产品拖着壮 观而漂亮的尾烟稳稳滑翔。然而约10秒钟后，尾烟则开始出现螺旋状……此时，正在指挥大厅观看试验的上级领 导玩笑中带着认真对导弹院总设计师樊会涛说：“老樊，这不是你们有意设计成这样的吧？”樊会涛认真解释道： “那不是，出现这样的情况可能有一些原因。”
　　虽然试验结果证明，产品的安全性和稳定性都是正常的，但后期出现的旋转问题让研制人员感到非常疑惑。樊 会涛要求，一定要解决这个问题。
　　第二天，导弹院副总师廖志忠就赶回洛阳开始组织攻关。虽然此时正值国庆节，一直在外场的他回到家，都毫 无心情在家过节，而是组织人员进行攻关，外场这边同时也在组织攻关。决定在国庆节期间要做一次摸底试验。1 0月6日，家里和外场同时出发集结，8日把试验做完。
　　因天气原因，10月9日试验才顺利进行并取得成功。产品发射后笔直向前冲刺，没有丝毫旋转痕迹。国庆节 期间一直忙碌的他们，感受到了一份难得的轻松。
　　10日中午简单就餐后，外场试验人员就赶往下一个试验任务点。他们行驶在戈壁公路上，一条细细长长的公 路延绵几千公里，横亘茫茫戈壁滩上。开始车上还有人说话，后来天色渐黑，路越来越难走，大家也越来越紧张， 车上变得鸦雀无声，都紧张地盯着前方。经过10多个小时的紧张行驶，他们于晚上22时才终于安全抵达中转地 方，而这里距最终的目的地还有200多公里。
　　第二天一早，就在他们紧张的心情还没有来得及放松时，却得知下一个任务撤销的消息，大家当时傻在那里说 不出话。这就是外场，这就是任务，它的不确定性必须让每一个试验队员都时刻紧张准备着。
　　大漠“航空日”
　　10月26日，对导弹院来说是一个好日子。更有试验队员比喻，这是“洛阳日”。
　　10月25日，导弹院试验队得到消息：三个型号同时安排了试验任务，并且飞行5个架次。这一消息，如同 一剂强心针，使所有的试验队员都无比兴奋——飞5个架次——导弹院专场！
　　10月26日，一个微风徐徐、艳阳高照的日子。这是戈壁滩上少有，也是做试验难得的好日子。为了这天的 试验，在基地的领导与队员们全体出动，大家高度集中，密切配合，认真仔细，5个试验任务按照计划井然有序地 开展着。
　　第一架次：新一代雷达产品空中弹射试验圆满成功！
　　第二架次：新型红外产品合练圆满完成！
　　第三架次：新一代雷达产品系留试验圆满完成！
　　第四架次：某型号批检试验圆满成功！

it talks about a lot of different testing and success.
It mentions a new generation radar product in air launched testing succeeded.
It talks about a new typed of infrared product passing testing.
not really sure the difference between the first and 3rd test.
Anyhow, until we actually see the missiles, it's hard to say what is now ready.

Impressive, China has come a long way...

Can anyone identify these missiles? One looks like it could be the PL-10.

Simply a R-73 training round !

Originally Posted by Deino

Simply a R-73 training round !

Yup, they will not let a old J-11A to handles latest tech... But be at least a J-11B class fighter.

Has anyone seen any updates or prototypes of the rumoured PL-10 short range AAM and/or the PL-12D / PL-21 longer range, ramjet powered AAM?

After a lot of web chatter in 2009-11, it's gone all quiet... you'd assume that these systems and newer AGM capable of internal carriage (J-20) would be in development as new platforms like the J-20 and J-10B are put through exhaustive testing prior to achieving IOC... any updates???

Duplicate entry

SAR.jpg

MMW active guidance AAM in SAR mode? Is it the evidence of dual-use AAM?

the russian also pursue similiar program,using MMW rather than IR.