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maozedong

IL-76 Medium-Range Transport Aircraft - Air Force Technology

yes, 200ton is maximum take-off, IL-76 MTOW is 170ton, some model is 190ton, so they are no much defference, D30kp engine fits this new plane.

自主创新造大运 动力先行兴航空——访中国工程院院士、航空发动机专家刘大响

我国已初步具备研制大型飞机的条件和能力
建国50多年来，我国航空工业共生产了各种飞机16000多架，发动机近6万台，为国防建设和经济发展做出 了重要贡献，已形成比较完整的航空工业生产体系。已配备了一定数量的数控切削设备和100吨以上的数控钣金 成形设备，正在修建80米跨度的装配厂房。大型运输机需用的大涵道比涡扇发动机FWS10-118验证机，己正在进行地面台架试车。完全可以说，目前我国航空工业已初步具备了研制150吨级大型运输 机及其动力装置的能力。

talk about China Large bypass ratio turbofan engine FWS10-118 verification machine, test rig has been under way on the ground. Can safely say that at present China's aviation industry has initially developed with a 150-ton large transport aircraft and power plant capacity.

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challenge

MTOW for C-17?

Bltizo

265.35 tons
C-17 Globemaster III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A note, the large transport's weight will probably not be exactly 200tons, could be a bit lower or a bit higher. But I think the payload will be around 60 tons. Ish.

pla101prc

so when they are talkin about making publicity, are they talkin about the maiden flight? or is the testing stage already underway, its confusing cuz if the aircraft already started test flights there should have been some rumours about it.

maozedong

from my view, that means at the end of this year, the first aircraft prototype assembly completed,and off the line,showing in XAC.

A.Man

The 200 tonne transport plane-Y-20

中航第一飞机研究院 大型军用运输机Y-20

中国一航第一飞机设计研究院设计的大型军用运输机Y-20采用常规布局，机翼为悬臂式上单翼，前缘后掠角24°，无翼梢小翼。悬臂式T形尾翼。垂直安定面与机身 连接处向前伸有小背鳍，嵌入式方向舵分为上、下两段，升降舵分为两段。液压可收放前三点式起落架，可靠重力 应急自由放下。前起落架为双轮，主起落架为6轮。前起落架向前收入机身，主起落架旋转90°向里收入机身两 侧整流罩内。该机为大展弦比超临界翼型，采用包括前缘缝翼及外吹式襟翼系统等增升装置。

*Y-20基本技术数据:

翼展45米
机长47米
机高15米
前缘后掠角24度
最大载重60吨
最大起飞重量220吨
巡航速度M0.75(高度8000米)
低空巡航速度630千米/小时
实用升限13000米
航程4000千米

tphuang

i really don't want to have to do this every time, so do you mind actually translate what you post? A lot of people here can't read Chinese.

montyp165

My expectation is that the High-bypass WS-10a variant will put out at least 32000 lb thrust, which is the output of the PS-90 on the Il-76MF. That is the minimum necessary thrust to match the Il-76MF and C-17 in overall performance.

danielchin

I hope I didn't make some terminology errors:

Wingspan 45 M
Fuselage length 47 M
Height 15 M
Wingswept 24 degree
Max. payload 60 t
MTOW 220 t
Cruising speed 0.75 M
Low Altitude Cruising speed 630 KM/H
Service ceiling 13,000 M
Range 4,000 KM

Skywatcher

Shouldn't the payload be more than a little over 60 tons? Like 60 to 65? Or even 70, on a very good day?

Lundblad.Jeff

I find this whole situation rather odd. I can't think of any time that China announced the completion of a new weapon and plan to put it on a public showing. Especially before any photos of it have come out.

Engineer

Maya posted those very pictures couple months ago.

Bltizo

Is this from a reliable source?

And also, I find 60 tons to be enough for China's heavy transport needs. The Il-76 they have can only carry 47 tons. Besides, I'm sure that future variants will have expanded cargo capacity, but right now I think that China is more interested in being able to produce a heavy transport in good numbers and of good performance rather than wanting to wait for an extremely good performance plane.

challenge

MTOW for C-17A is 265 ton,while new IL-76 variant the IL-76MF is 210 ton.
at 200ton the cargo aircraft is roughfly same (or near) Il-76MF

pla101prc

maybe this whole thing is a scam to get the russians to agree on the il-76/78 deal that they have been stalling