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China Flanker Thread II

This is a discussion on China Flanker Thread II within the Air Force forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; J16 appeared in this months AFM and it stated that it was derived from Su-30MKK, so J11B is from Su-27 ...

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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    J16 appeared in this months AFM and it stated that it was derived from Su-30MKK, so J11B is from Su-27 and J16 is from Su-30MKK?

    also it said its using WS10 engines and article also stated that J31/F60 was using pair of RD-93 engines
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    123811525_11n.jpg

    SU-30MKK with 3 types of missiles. The ones with 3 black bands and 4 black bands looks like new missiles, presumely of Russian origin since SU-30MKK was not wired for Chinese made missiles.
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by lcloo View Post
    123811525_11n.jpg

    SU-30MKK with 3 types of missiles. The ones with 3 black bands and 4 black bands looks like new missiles, presumely of Russian origin since SU-30MKK was not wired for Chinese made missiles.
    No ... Right the ones with the Black bands are the old AA-10 & AA-11... The other ones are AA-12/R-77 but You are correct that this is a rarely seen weapons load.

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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    J-15

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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by Lion View Post
    J-15
    That PS is so wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equation View Post
    Hey Deino, could you post it in jpg. file pic because I click on the site and it's not there? Thanks.
    Sorry for the delay ....
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by lostsoul View Post
    That PS is so wrong!
    Could You please tell us, why You are so sure that this is a PS ???
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by Deino View Post
    Sorry for the delay ....
    No problem...thanks!
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by Deino View Post
    Could You please tell us, why You are so sure that this is a PS ???
    It looks like the J15 is lifting off just before the ski jump. A very risky thing to do. That's unless it only looks that way and the J-15 is further behind the ski jump doing a flyover or a touch-and-go along the landing runway.
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by Quickie View Post
    It looks like the J15 is lifting off just before the ski jump. A very risky thing to do. That's unless it only looks that way and the J-15 is further behind the ski jump doing a flyover or a touch-and-go along the landing runway.
    That or it could be a touch and go exercise.
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    can y'all really be questioning as to whether that photo is a ps?

    everything about that pic is wrong!!!!

    everything!!!!
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by Equation View Post
    That or it could be a touch and go exercise.
    You would want to do a "touch and go" in the landing runway and not in the ski jump direction.
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    I think that is along the landing runway and not towards the ski jump direction. The deck just looks curved because of the wide angle lenses used.

    The plane in the pic is probably roughly in this position:



    Judging by where the white dash line crosses with the yellow dash line and the circular helo marking. Note that there may be some difference in line scheme because this could be from a previous trial (and maybe we can narrow down to which by looking at the painting on deck).

    The plane seems a bit high for a touch and go, probably a low fly over.
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by no_name View Post
    I think that is along the landing runway and not towards the ski jump direction. The deck just looks curved because of the wide angle lenses used.

    The plane in the pic is probably roughly in this position:



    Judging by where the white dash line crosses with the yellow dash line and the circular helo marking. Note that there may be some difference in line scheme because this could be from a previous trial (and maybe we can narrow down to which by looking at the painting on deck).

    The plane seems a bit high for a touch and go, probably a low fly over.
    I agree with your view that the runway shown in the "questionable" photo is actually flat. However, the photo in question shows a solid red line alongside a dashed red line, and I just don't see such a thing in the photo you posted. However, if the deck markings were re-done a couple of times, this may well be the angled deck we are looking at, since other pics also show red lines on the angled deck and yellow ones on the ramp.
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    Re: China Flanker Thread II

    Quote Originally Posted by lostsoul View Post
    You would want to do a "touch and go" in the landing runway and not in the ski jump direction.
    What are you talking about? That picture is taken on the angle deck, where's the ski jump come from? It's completely out of the picture.
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