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SampanViking

A question bourne of curiosity.

With all the apparent increase in Missile Intercept technology, I am wondering if there is any development in an area I have always found strangely lacking.

Is there; to anyones knowledge, any development on a Point Defence missile to protect aircraft from A2A or SAM attack?

It does seem strange that the primary defence remains sprinting and gymnastics!

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Pointblank

It's incredibly difficult to intercept small missiles. The current defences an aircraft has is through ECM, and countermeasures such as chaff and flares. For IR guided missiles, lasers are also becoming a option to distract or blind missiles, such as LAIRCM.

Londo Molari

To use a fighter's gun to intercept an incoming missile, the pilot (or auto-pilot) will have to aim his gun exactly towards the missile, and since you're in an aircraft, this means you'll be flying towards the missile then, further reducing the time to impact. It would be incredibly difficult and risky.

You can't do this on bigger transport/gunship type aircraft, because by the time you turn around to bring your guns to bear, you'll be hit.

And since the incoming missile is small, it would be hard for an aircraft's own small radar to lock onto it and fire its own missile to intercept.

EW jamming and releasing chaff and flairs seems to be the only option for now.

But you have a point. I wouldn't be surprised if fifth generation IR missiles like the AIM-9X were being built with the ability to detect and intercept small incoming missiles for an aircraft's self-defense.

Pointblank

Also, these missiles are travelling extremely fast. This isn't like a cruise missile or a AT missile, which fly slower.

Jeff Head

The new, as yet un-announced and ultra top secret US particle beam (energy weapon) technology powered by a miconized gen X fusion reactor (also top secret and not announced) will cover this contingency.

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In truth, with the advent of the new nuclear reactors on the CVN-78 (CVN-21, or Ford class carriers), directed energy weapons are thought to be a distinct possibility for CIWS for the carrier itself. It will be a long, long time before they are made small enough for aircraft.

crobato

You don't need to physically destroy the missile. Just jam, blind it or fry the seeker head's electronics. Think something of a hybrid between a CIWS and ECM, using a small steerable microwave beam.

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Pointblank

Think LAIRCM.

adeptitus

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ile-jets_N.htm

Three American Airlines Boeing 767-200s that fly daily round-trip routes between New York and California will receive the anti-missile laser jammers this spring, according to the Department of Homeland Security, which is spending $29 million on the tests.

Jets will fly with the jammer device mounted on the belly of the plane, between the wheels. The device works with sensors, also mounted on the plane, that detect a heat-seeking missile and shoot a laser at it to send the missile veering harmlessly off course.

PrOeLiTeZ

For aircraft the idea of a satchel being released simular to flares/chaffes but instead of releasing heat signature releases an EMP pulse right into the path of the missle. This doesnt physically destroy or eliminate the missle but disables its electronics, making it fly blind.

noone536

wait but does flying blind means that it won't hit you or you have a smaller chances because i know even thought sam fly blind but they already have the path lock so does that mean when blind they fly another path? i am sorry i am kind of new in this

ahho

inflatable shields??? maybe?? LOL i took this idea from yukikaze where if you were lock down from the back, you basically deploy a inflatable shield and at high speed impact that could damage or cause the missile to explode.

usaf0314

United States is now researching laser defence technology, it will first appear as a large Boing 747 class weapon platform, its main mission is to take out SCUD/ICBM. it might take another decade for it to be small enough to fit on to fighters, transports and other air units. it will also be used in civil air transport.